PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[AeronautIR]

Corruption money shall be legitimate and taxable....that will solve our problems.

If only it was that simple... the indirect taxes are not even a fraction of the total tax theft... there is a reason we bought J-10C with loan and that too only 20... But anyone can always petition their MNA or some senator for these issues, or involve courts... Armed forces are under no obligation to justify any allegations made by an individual, taxpayer or not.

Many of us conveniently blame everything on corruption by elite. All our discussions here about PAF future plans mean nothing if there is not enough money to implement them.

Plans for 1,2 or 3 J-10C squadrons will just be a chit chat topic without resources.

 

[Toxic]

People pay tax in Pakistan?

Or kya? Aunty Shabana ki committees pe nahi chalta mulk

 

[maxpane]

Or kya? Aunty shabana ki committees pe nahi chalta mulk

kia misaal di ha ap ne salute

 

[Corax]

Or kya? Aunty shabana ki committees pe nahi chalta mulk

Really? I thought that's how it usually works. You have to pay yourself for schools, hospitals, clinics, other services, etc. Other than some infrastructure and the military, most of the tax receipts probably go towards paying debt.

And even then you'll have to check if aunty Shabana isn't squirrelling away the committee funds under her mattress.

 

[Toxic]

Really? I thought that's how it usually works. You have to pay yourself for schools, hospitals, clinics, other services, etc. Other than some infrastructure and the military, most of the tax receipts probably go towards paying debt.

And even then you'll have to check if aunty Shabana isn't squirrelling away the committee funds under her mattress.

To Wo Tax Kon deta hai?

 

[Corax]

To Wo Tax Kon deta hai?

The small percentage of people who are in the formal economy and have salaried jobs, usually in the large urban centres, whereas most of the population don't.

 

[Toxic]

The small percentage of people who are in the formal economy and have salaried jobs, usually in the large urban centres, whereas most of the population don't.

So are they not Pakistani?

 

[Corax]

So are they not Pakistani?

You're not getting it, so I'll desist from further off topic posts.

 

[Ibbi32]

To Wo Tax Kon deta hai?

Karachi wale

 

[Taimoor]

But the F-16 has never been just a bomb truck in PAF service. Its value sits in air defense, strike escort, counter-air, and high-end deterrence roles.

Historically yes, in this day and ago, No. You dont have to look far, recent events of May have amply proved that F16s now sits at third tier of air to air firepower within PAF. Even for ground strikes, they were not used simply because they do not carry SOWs. You have to have air superiority deep inside the eastern front for them to be of any utility in that theatre. However, western flanks, they can create no fly zones and bomb anywhere at will, and that where their utility is. Horses for courses.

 

[Corax]

Historically yes, in this day and ago, No. You dont have to look far, recent events of May have amply proved that F16s now sits at third tier of air to air firepower within PAF. Even for ground strikes, they were not used simply because they do not carry SOWs. You have to have air superiority deep inside the eastern front for them to be of any utility in that theatre. However, western flanks, they can create no fly zones and bomb anywhere at will, and that where their utility is. Horses for courses.

That's the problem with the Vipers, while it may be relatively cost effective to induct more, their actual utility is limited. The threat has changed since 2019 when they were last used, they weren't used against the Rafales. Hence the acquisition of J10C/PL15 combo to meet that threat.

 

[Princeps]

Historically yes, in this day and ago, No. You dont have to look far, recent events of May have amply proved that F16s now sits at third tier of air to air firepower within PAF. Even for ground strikes, they were not used simply because they do not carry SOWs. You have to have air superiority deep inside the eastern front for them to be of any utility in that theatre. However, western flanks, they can create no fly zones and bomb anywhere at will, and that where their utility is. Horses for courses.

If only we could get JSOWs

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

President Zardari was briefed on AVIC’s advanced capabilities, including the J-10 fighter jet, the co-production of the JF-17 Thunder with Pakistan, as well as progress in the J-20 stealth 5th-generation fighter aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, fully automated units, and integrated command-and-control systems for modern multi-domain operations.

Did you mean to say J-35?

 

[maxpane]

Did you mean to say J-35?

nop it was j 20 mentioned in the news

 

[flyingorca]

What did we hit 34 targets with than?.
Or the number is for combined strikes by PA and PAF?.

IMO there is also some propaganda from our sides but not same level as Indian. Pakistan is also including strikes thay were warning shots where rockets were intentionally made to land in vicinity of the target. Alot of them were made to fall in wooded area to avoid casualties and to de-escalate. If Pakistani rockets fell inside india without being intercepted then that means their AD failed to achive 100% success as claimed by majority of Indians.
Had Pakistan not struck S400 radar then India won air to surface surface to Surface warfare by a HUGE margin. But of course yet again PAF dominated the sky with 6-0 record.