PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[arjunk]

it is clear the ruin of Pakistan is attributed to poor decisions by Boomers and subsequently boosted through by society built by them.

The system of a central head of state (Emperor then COAS now) ruling vassal states (Balochistan B areas, interior Sindh, KP tribes, AJK autonomy) through loyal feudal lords/puppets existed since the Mughal era

Until Pakistan becomes an educated high trust Islamic society which is GOVERNED, not RULED, it will not prosper. Some woke people object to the mention of religion but in a multi ethnic country like ours there's no other way to convince people to co exist. That's another thread on its own.

 

[MastanKhan]

Yes my interest is totally on unity and make muslims better at science so that we become self sufficient in tech especially defense tech.

Hi,

Take the word 'muslim' out of your text and focus on pakistanis---.

Then u might have a chance---if you have a lots of money---.

 

[Toxic]

This is straying way off topic

 

[GriffinsRule]

Will thread ban anyone going off topic hence forth

 

[Psyko70]

Hi,

You will get your Phd at about 40 years of age---. So---according to you---you will have only 20 useful years left---and then you are a waste to be set aside---is that what you stated?

Elders don't think younger people are stupid---it is the young people competing against older people that makes them think that they are stupid---.

Its a self-imposed belief by the young---.

Hello Mastan Khan,
Your posts are always to the point, Mind of older and zeal of young. This is what I have believed, always.

I remember arguing with you in my early years post 2010's in PDF and you calling me kid but always gave a logical reply, it made things better for me in Defense aspect, thank you for that. Added attachment from 2015.

Dear members,

I have still lot to learn, J10 is good platform. But I prefer jf17 and then directly j35 or AZM or Kaan. J10 and jeff have similarities and the superiority of j10 can be adjusted with upgrading block 2 jeffs to 3.

I might be wrong but jf 17 with saab 2000 or other Awacs/intelligence planes and greater jamming capabilities of it is a good stop gap. What we should do is add more jeffs in block 3 standard.

j10 came as stop gap I always believed like that. its not a heavy hitter its class and role is exceeds in some expects not in all and that in medium role.

 

[johncliu88]

PA released new photos of the Dragon Rider

 

[Reichmarshal]

There is no substitute for experience, and experience comes with time.
learn to be patient, and your time will come

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Hi,

The problem is not with the willing students---. The issues are with the locals who try every which way to throw hurdles in the way of the foreign educated pakistanis.

Assalam U Alaikum,

I have written a long message for you on our previous discussion starting with apology and clarification which i didnt convey properly and resulted in misunderstanding but that message was deleted by admin because of going of topic.

On above point i think the main issue is we need private industry to hire those students who did study abroad as government beside government organizations cannot hire all of them. for private industry again we have alot issues for which we need to put our house in order and try to reduce energy cost as well. Thanks

 

[Watandar]

How many of these 28000 Pakistani students are willing to return to their home country after completing their studies? Some Muslim students like to use studying in China as a springboard to go to Europe and America in the future.

A few will return home, most will seek job opportunities in West/Mideast as that is what they are most familiar with and have many role models. I dont know if China allows foreign students to work after graduation, otherwise many would happily stay in China and check it out. OT though.

 

[MH.Yang]

How many of these 28000 Pakistani students are willing to return to their home country after completing their studies? Some Muslim students like to use studying in China as a springboard to go to Europe and America in the future.

How many of these 28000 Pakistani students are willing to return to their home country after completing their studies? Some Muslim students like to use studying in China as a springboard to go to Europe and America in the future.

Most of these Pakistani students in China completed their studies through CSC scholarships provided by the Chinese government. This means that most of them have to sign a contract with the Chinese government and return to Pakistan to work for CPEC for a certain period of time after graduation.

And most of them are limited to majors such as power, energy, communications, transportation, mechanical and civil engineering, which means they don't have much opportunity to go to Europe and America, their future is in Pakistan. Chinese government is not that stupid, we will only train STEM talents for Pakistan, not for Europe and America.

The people who will actually go to Europe and America through Chinese universities as a springboard are Indian students, most of them are self-funding their MBBS, MBA, Economics, etc., which are suitable majors for jobs in Europe and America.

 

[Psyko70]

A few will return home, most will seek job opportunities in West/Mideast as that is what they are most familiar with and have many role models. I dont know if China allows foreign students to work after graduation, otherwise many would happily stay in China and check it out. OT though.

I know some who have worked in so advance level in China. IN CS field and others. so its possible.

However,

Pakistani's in foreign dont get full access to university labs if topic is sophisticated. Also, out of 35000 students for example only 50 to 100 are actually going for getting good knowledge. Rest just want to experience western world and want to live like them as we have some kind of disease that the west > rest of world.

 

[Taimoor]

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[Tariq Habib Afridi]

when are we getting the remaining 16 J-10CE?

 

[Rational Philosopher]

when are we getting the remaining 16 J-10CE?

The order was only 20

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

The order was only 20

Apology i didnt knew that. is it money issue?

we need to put more bigger order for J-10C. Or is it because PAF PFX JF-17 alpha that we stopped JF-17C and also order limited J-10CE? I trust PAF they want totally indegenous platform equal to J10CE or surpassing it and then they will produce that in numbers i guess