PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

In a normal country this should be doable but in a abnormal state this is not possible. The state has always looked for shortcuts - loans, grants and subsidies -.
Recently the government claimed that 20B$ pakistani money is parked overseas and they would like to get it repatriated to beef up the FX reserves - another shortcut.

80-100 billons were stolen by Politicians including Nawaz, Shahbaz and Zardari in last 30 years. MQM also made lots of $$$.

I have provided a simple solution. Dismantle Provincial system and go with 30+ economic zones and move to digital economy.
 
Technical and infrastructure preparation

1-a. Build dedicated fifth-gen shelters and hangars: Hardened, climate-controlled shelters to protect LO coatings, sensitive avionics, and support stealth maintenance.
1.-b. In my opinion, Underground bases allow protection, hidden maintenance, secure fueling, and sustained sortie generation even under heavy attack.
• Pakistan’s geography (mountains, hard rock terrain) is well‑suited for such facilities, similar to Iran, China, and North Korea.
• Without underground protection, J‑35s risk becoming “hangar queens” too valuable to expose and too vulnerable to survive a first strike.

2. Establish LO (stealth) maintenance facilities:
Specialized bays, tools, and materials for radar-absorbent coatings, panel alignment, and signature management, this is a different world from JF-17/F-16.
3. Upgrade power, cooling, and data infrastructure at bases:
Fifth-gen jets need robust electrical supply, cooling for ground systems, and secure high-bandwidth data links for mission systems.
4. Create a China-standard ground support equipment (GSE) suite:
Tow tractors, power carts, hydraulic rigs, LO-safe access platforms, and test benches compatible with J-35’s systems.
5. Set up depot-level maintenance capability inside Pakistan:
Negotiate licensed MRO for engines, avionics, and structures to avoid total dependence on Chinese depots and long turnaround times.


Supply chain, spares, and lifecycle planning
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Human capital and training
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Digital, software, and data ecosystem
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Operational integration and doctrine
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Governance, finance, and resilience
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Bro,

1. This thread is dedicated to discussing the PAF's J-10CE—not the J-35 or any other 5th-generation fighter jets. You have clearly strayed from the main topic.

2. Your views regarding the PAF's 5th-generation fighter capabilities are predicated on the assumption that the PAF possesses a sufficiently massive budget. This assumption is evidently at odds with the current reality in Pakistan.

Additional Information:

Typically, the actual cost incurred by a nation to field 5th-generation fighter jets is far greater than the apparent price tag. It is generally estimated that the true cost of a 5th-generation fighter—spanning its entire operational lifecycle—is approximately four to five times its initial purchase price. Based on this, you can roughly estimate the cost range for a single squadron (comprising 20 to 24 aircraft) of 5th-generation fighters.
 
-Firstly PAF needs to urgently get those J-35s. For months and years now, we were told that PAF teams were already getting training in China. I SINCERELY HOPE IT IS TRUE.

-Secondly, everything happening in Pakistan, Iran and ME is purely 100% due to USA !! USA is 100% trying to perserve the Global Order it built after 1945 ! For for this USA will destroy countries, supply chains, sacrifice its allies and even destroy half the planet if it has to !! The ultimate goal is this the COMPLETE DEFEAT OF CHINA, capture of China and its vast manufacturing riches. The war in Gulf is to ensure disruption to global oil supply which will have profound impact on supply China.

-Anyone who thinks Israel has some sort of hold on American is an absolute Bafoon. Israel is a strategic tool of the USA to do whatever it wants in ME.

-Recent events are evidence that USA has overthrown and changed Governments in MANY COUNTRIES already !! It is trying to instigate a Regime in Pakistan 100%, and people who think otherwise are idiots.

-USA wasn't in A-stan to fight Taliban, it was there to establish well trained Militias who will cause havoc in Central Asia, China, Iran and Pakistan.

-India is firmly in USA camp. Why do you think US companies mostly employ Indians? Why do you think CEOs of major US companies are Indians??

-Pakistan is fighting against the US, India, Israel, Taliban terrorist, etc to avoid a Regime change in Pakistan. The Ultimate Goal once again is to completely SURROUND CHINA !! And that is why Pakistan needs J-35s and all the other top of the line Chinese stuff.
 
-Firstly PAF needs to urgently get those J-35s. For months and years now, we were told that PAF teams were already getting training in China. I SINCERELY HOPE IT IS TRUE.

-Secondly, everything happening in Pakistan, Iran and ME is purely 100% due to USA !! USA is 100% trying to perserve the Global Order it built after 1945 ! For for this USA will destroy countries, supply chains, sacrifice its allies and even destroy half the planet if it has to !! The ultimate goal is this the COMPLETE DEFEAT OF CHINA, capture of China and its vast manufacturing riches. The war in Gulf is to ensure disruption to global oil supply which will have profound impact on supply China.

-Anyone who thinks Israel has some sort of hold on American is an absolute Bafoon. Israel is a strategic tool of the USA to do whatever it wants in ME.

-Recent events are evidence that USA has overthrown and changed Governments in MANY COUNTRIES already !! It is trying to instigate a Regime in Pakistan 100%, and people who think otherwise are idiots.

-USA wasn't in A-stan to fight Taliban, it was there to establish well trained Militias who will cause havoc in Central Asia, China, Iran and Pakistan.

-India is firmly in USA camp. Why do you think US companies mostly employ Indians? Why do you think CEOs of major US companies are Indians??

-Pakistan is fighting against the US, India, Israel, Taliban terrorist, etc to avoid a Regime change in Pakistan. The Ultimate Goal once again is to completely SURROUND CHINA !! And that is why Pakistan needs J-35s and all the other top of the line Chinese stuff.

Pakistan’s Crisis Is Homegrown, Not Imported. The argument that “everything is 100% due to the USA” is not just exaggerated, it’s a convenient escape hatch for an establishment that has spent decades protecting the status quo instead of building a functional state. Blaming Washington, Delhi, Tel Aviv, or anyone else has become a national addiction, a way to avoid accountability for our own catastrophic governance.

Let’s discuss this in a separate thread and I will certainly broaden your horizon.
 
Hi,

This is on a very serious note---. I believe that we are at the begining of our existential threat & the distance betwee the start and the end may not be too long.

Until and unless this war don't stop---we are going to end up in deep deep trouble.

For the victory in May 2025---we may end up paying an extremely heavy heavy price---.

Changig the power structure of the world super powers in a 45 minute air battle has blown the cob-webs of the lethargic snooze button that the west was in slumber of---.

Pray to Allah that I am wrong---.

Lol stop the fear mongering sir. Remember our number 1 doctrine, if we go down we will take our enemies with us. One nuke up Modi's 54 inch wali g0nd and they will be begging us for another cease fire.
 
-Firstly PAF needs to urgently get those J-35s. For months and years now, we were told that PAF teams were already getting training in China. I SINCERELY HOPE IT IS TRUE.

-Secondly, everything happening in Pakistan, Iran and ME is purely 100% due to USA !! USA is 100% trying to perserve the Global Order it built after 1945 ! For for this USA will destroy countries, supply chains, sacrifice its allies and even destroy half the planet if it has to !! The ultimate goal is this the COMPLETE DEFEAT OF CHINA, capture of China and its vast manufacturing riches. The war in Gulf is to ensure disruption to global oil supply which will have profound impact on supply China.

-Anyone who thinks Israel has some sort of hold on American is an absolute Bafoon. Israel is a strategic tool of the USA to do whatever it wants in ME.

-Recent events are evidence that USA has overthrown and changed Governments in MANY COUNTRIES already !! It is trying to instigate a Regime in Pakistan 100%, and people who think otherwise are idiots.

-USA wasn't in A-stan to fight Taliban, it was there to establish well trained Militias who will cause havoc in Central Asia, China, Iran and Pakistan.

-India is firmly in USA camp. Why do you think US companies mostly employ Indians? Why do you think CEOs of major US companies are Indians??

-Pakistan is fighting against the US, India, Israel, Taliban terrorist, etc to avoid a Regime change in Pakistan. The Ultimate Goal once again is to completely SURROUND CHINA !! And that is why Pakistan needs J-35s and all the other top of the line Chinese stuff.

Who is responsible for the fact that the UAE is demanding Pakistan to return $3 billion, and that Saudi Arabia has previously threatened to deport Pakistani workers? When the Pakistani economy is on a ventilator and the country is forced to beg Arab states for billions just to survive, how can anyone realistically expect an independent foreign policy? And who is responsible for this situation…..United States, Israel, or Taliban?
 
-Firstly PAF needs to urgently get those J-35s. For months and years now, we were told that PAF teams were already getting training in China. I SINCERELY HOPE IT IS TRUE.

-Secondly, everything happening in Pakistan, Iran and ME is purely 100% due to USA !! USA is 100% trying to perserve the Global Order it built after 1945 ! For for this USA will destroy countries, supply chains, sacrifice its allies and even destroy half the planet if it has to !! The ultimate goal is this the COMPLETE DEFEAT OF CHINA, capture of China and its vast manufacturing riches. The war in Gulf is to ensure disruption to global oil supply which will have profound impact on supply China.

-Anyone who thinks Israel has some sort of hold on American is an absolute Bafoon. Israel is a strategic tool of the USA to do whatever it wants in ME.

-Recent events are evidence that USA has overthrown and changed Governments in MANY COUNTRIES already !! It is trying to instigate a Regime in Pakistan 100%, and people who think otherwise are idiots.

-USA wasn't in A-stan to fight Taliban, it was there to establish well trained Militias who will cause havoc in Central Asia, China, Iran and Pakistan.

-India is firmly in USA camp. Why do you think US companies mostly employ Indians? Why do you think CEOs of major US companies are Indians??

-Pakistan is fighting against the US, India, Israel, Taliban terrorist, etc to avoid a Regime change in Pakistan. The Ultimate Goal once again is to completely SURROUND CHINA !! And that is why Pakistan needs J-35s and all the other top of the line Chinese stuff.
Exactly! Israel is basically a Country sized Military base of the imperial USA decorated by religious notions in order to deceive the masses who are awaiting their own messiahs.
 
I think it’s a very real possibility that Pakistan in the future will face a multi front war

From India , Afghanistan , Iran(if it falls ) and Israel

Pakistan now needs to decide its strategy on how to fight a two or three front war
 
I think it’s a very real possibility that Pakistan in the future will face a multi front war

From India , Afghanistan , Iran(if it falls ) and Israel

Pakistan now needs to decide its strategy on how to fight a two or three front war
Most difficult predicament. This is akin to a WW. Other countries would get involved.
 
I think it’s a very real possibility that Pakistan in the future will face a multi front war

From India , Afghanistan , Iran(if it falls ) and Israel

Pakistan now needs to decide its strategy on how to fight a two or three front war

The strategy is simple.

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I think it’s a very real possibility that Pakistan in the future will face a multi front war

From India , Afghanistan , Iran(if it falls ) and Israel

Pakistan now needs to decide its strategy on how to fight a two or three front war
......and would be our own fault if it happens for opening a front that wasn't necessary. The ""field marshal"" (aka retired general) was advised by our most senior generals and our nations most accomplished afghan experts not to engage in this retardness but he ignored all in front of his ego. I can only pray that our generations will not suffer because of his treachery. I can only 'pray' that this gives good results for pakistan instead of horrors.

Most difficult predicament. This is akin to a WW. Other countries would get involved.
.......Partly of our own making.
 

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