PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[Ak01]

about the string, is it so sure?
no problem today. But in 15 years?

the french did the same btw

didnt you also sell out the iraqis?

 

[Ali_Baba]

IMHO, I believe, if integration is allowed, we might see a transition of our F-16's to strike and interdiction roles and leaving the air superiority domain to J-10 and JF-17 bloc III and then J-35 whenever that comes.

That is why we might be willing to swap out the Iraqi F-16's with JF-17's. But the sticking point remains the integration of non-US munitions and various other permissions for upgrades in Turkey.

100 or so multirole fighters in PAF stock, in future, remains the shorter broad sword of the PAF arsenal with fleet maint. support and upgrades available well into the late 30's if relations permit.

I do think there is value in more F16s, if they can be picked up 2nd hand and not new builds. The F16 fleet can go the same path laid down by the Mirage fleet in PAF service. They have payload capabilities in terms of load that the other jets in the PAF cannot offer and able to operate at high intensity levels. Integration of local systems is a problem, though Ukraine has shown how you can do it if you apply some initiative.

The J10CE with its long stick and integration, can be the spear of air supremacy operations alongside the JF17 Block III.

 

[TAC]

about the string, is it so sure?
no problem today. But in 15 years?

French wishful thinking? lol. You could ask that question about any relationship between 2 nations, so what?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You'd be better off convincing your government and military not to buy it

It seems that China is currently ramping up production of J-10 fighter jets for Indonesia, Algeria, and Egypt, while Pakistan would be better served by focusing on its F-16s

The twenty J-10C fighters currently in service are already enough for Pakistan.

What a stupid comment this is that you or China dictate us that how many J-10C Pakistan want? and Indonesia is going for Korean KA-50 not interested in J-10C and tell me how many orders from Egypt and Algeria? may be few dozen at best, If you deny J-10C to Pakistan you will lose lot of $$$ and earn bad reputation, our order will be massive 100 to 150 J-10C

 

[BonPlan]

How is that any different to what we experienced with the US or you French?

What was your tie with the french ?

 

[BonPlan]

French wishful thinking? lol. You could ask that question about any relationship between 2 nations, so what?

Your risk is to quit a clear and well know US tie, for another, far less known.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

What is the remaining life span of your F16 fleet ?
At the end, no more US tie. (but a chinese one... best today, but tomorrow ?)

US awards F-16 upgrade contract for Pakistan, other states​

Anwar Iqbal
Published May 2, 2026



WASHINGTON: The United States Air Force has awarded a $488 million contract to Northrop Grumman Systems Corp. for long-term engineering and technical support of F-16 Fighting Falcon radar systems, with Pakistan among the countries covered by the deal.

According to an official award notice, released this week, the firm-fixed-price, indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract will support the APG-66 and APG-68 radar systems used on F-16 fighter aircraft. Work will be carried out in Linthicum Heights, Maryland, and is scheduled to continue through March 31, 2036.

The contract covers support for multiple partner countries under the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme, including Bahrain, Belgium, Chile, Denmark, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, South Korea, Morocco, the Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Thailand and Turkiye.

The award was issued on a sole-source basis by the US Air Force Lifecycle Management Centre in Utah. An initial $2.64 million in fiscal 2026 non-appropriated Air Force and Navy funds has been obligated at the time of award.

The latest support arrangement underscores the long-term US commitment to sustaining F-16 operational readiness across allied and partner air forces, including Pakistan, which continues to operate a fleet of US-origin fighter aircraft under periodic upgrade and maintenance arrangements.

The development follows a separate US notification in December 2025, when the Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) informed Congress of a proposed $686 million package to upgrade and support Pakistan’s F-16 fleet.

That package includes Link-16 tactical data systems, cryptographic equipment, avionics upgrades, training and logistical support. The DSCA described the proposed sale as aimed at strengthening interoperability among Pakistan, the US, and partner forces for counterterrorism cooperation and future contingency operations.

The upgrade plan also includes modifications to operational flight programmes, identification friend-or-foe systems, precision navigation tools and secure communications equipment. It further covers simulators, technical documentation, software updates and engineering support.

Lockheed Martin was identified as the principal contractor for the proposed upgrade programme, which US officials said would not require additional personnel deployment to Pakistan and would have no adverse impact on US defence readiness.

The DSCA notification emphasised that the package is intended to modernise Pakistan’s F-16 fleet, extend its service life through 2040, and address operational safety and avionics requirements. It also stated that Pakistan had demonstrated the capacity to absorb the upgrades and maintain its existing fleet.

A diplomatic source familiar with the matter said Pakistan has welcomed continued US support for its F-16 programme, noting that such upgrades would help extend the aircraft’s operational life while maintaining technical compatibility with allied systems.

The source added that Pakistan’s air force has diversified its fleet in recent years, reducing reliance on a single platform while still valuing sustainment of existing F-16 capabilities.

Together, the new long-term support contract and the previously notified upgrade package highlight continued US engagement in sustaining Pakistan’s F-16 fleet within the broader framework of Foreign Military Sales partnerships and regional interoperability objectives.

02/05/2026: US awards F-16 upgrade contract for Pakistan, other states: Dawn

 

[BonPlan]

US awards F-16 upgrade contract for Pakistan, other states​

Anwar Iqbal
Published May 2, 2026

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WASHINGTON: The United States Air Force has awarded a $488 million contract to Northrop Grumman Systems Corp. for long-term engineering and technical support of F-16 Fighting Falcon radar systems, with Pakistan among the countries covered by the deal.

According to an official award notice, released this week, the firm-fixed-price, indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract will support the APG-66 and APG-68 radar systems used on F-16 fighter aircraft. Work will be carried out in Linthicum Heights, Maryland, and is scheduled to continue through March 31, 2036.

The contract covers support for multiple partner countries under the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme, including Bahrain, Belgium, Chile, Denmark, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, South Korea, Morocco, the Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Thailand and Turkiye.

The award was issued on a sole-source basis by the US Air Force Lifecycle Management Centre in Utah. An initial $2.64 million in fiscal 2026 non-appropriated Air Force and Navy funds has been obligated at the time of award.

The latest support arrangement underscores the long-term US commitment to sustaining F-16 operational readiness across allied and partner air forces, including Pakistan, which continues to operate a fleet of US-origin fighter aircraft under periodic upgrade and maintenance arrangements.

The development follows a separate US notification in December 2025, when the Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) informed Congress of a proposed $686 million package to upgrade and support Pakistan’s F-16 fleet.

That package includes Link-16 tactical data systems, cryptographic equipment, avionics upgrades, training and logistical support. The DSCA described the proposed sale as aimed at strengthening interoperability among Pakistan, the US, and partner forces for counterterrorism cooperation and future contingency operations.

The upgrade plan also includes modifications to operational flight programmes, identification friend-or-foe systems, precision navigation tools and secure communications equipment. It further covers simulators, technical documentation, software updates and engineering support.

Lockheed Martin was identified as the principal contractor for the proposed upgrade programme, which US officials said would not require additional personnel deployment to Pakistan and would have no adverse impact on US defence readiness.

The DSCA notification emphasised that the package is intended to modernise Pakistan’s F-16 fleet, extend its service life through 2040, and address operational safety and avionics requirements. It also stated that Pakistan had demonstrated the capacity to absorb the upgrades and maintain its existing fleet.

A diplomatic source familiar with the matter said Pakistan has welcomed continued US support for its F-16 programme, noting that such upgrades would help extend the aircraft’s operational life while maintaining technical compatibility with allied systems.

The source added that Pakistan’s air force has diversified its fleet in recent years, reducing reliance on a single platform while still valuing sustainment of existing F-16 capabilities.

Together, the new long-term support contract and the previously notified upgrade package highlight continued US engagement in sustaining Pakistan’s F-16 fleet within the broader framework of Foreign Military Sales partnerships and regional interoperability objectives.

02/05/2026: US awards F-16 upgrade contract for Pakistan, other states: Dawn

perfect answer, thanks.

 

[Corax]

What was your tie with the french ?

You were the one who pointed this out before, banned RC400, Mica etc due to indian pressure and promises to buy Rafales, M2K upgrade etc. You French are probably worse than the US or China.

 

[Yasser76]

You were the one who pointed this out before, banned RC400, Mica etc due to indian pressure and promises to buy Rafales, M2K upgrade etc. You French are probably worse than the US or China.

He is not French

 

[Pakistan First]

China dictate us that how many J-10C Pakistan want? and Indonesia is going for Korean KA-50 not interested in J-10C and tell me how many orders from Egypt and Algeria? may be few dozen at best, If you deny J-10C to Pakistan you will lose lot of $$$ and earn bad reputation, our order will be massive 100 to 150 J-10C

China is trying their best to sell military products to Pakistan. China do not have a choice to deny. Its upto Pakistan to decide. If China denies then nobody will trust china ever. Every country will think that what if they do same with spare parts or backstab when required. China is seen already with suspicion in most of the world. It do not have many allies. Its building its reputation. It simply is not in the position to dictate.

 

[TAC]

Your risk is to quit a clear and well know US tie, for another, far less known.

lol. Who’s quitting the US tie and since when is the China tie ‘far less known’. Love when Indians encourage us to ditch battle proven / as many as we can afford and sanction free Chinese jets for prone to sanctions / closely monitored/ limited supply US alternatives.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Thanks @Quwa for peddling anti-China propaganda in Pakistan.

 

[Desprado123]

Thanks @Quwa for peddling anti-China propaganda in Pakistan.

He does not matter and China knows. Only the one matter is buying a lots of another stuff like drones and etc according to Hindustantime and indiatoday.

 

[BonPlan]

You were the one who pointed this out before, banned RC400, Mica etc due to indian pressure and promises to buy Rafales, M2K upgrade etc. You French are probably worse than the US or China.

So no tie ! We can't use a tie on a collar never selled.

RC400 : it's clear, and never because of India, but mainly because we were sure it fall under chineses hands.
MICA : never seen any news about it.

Promises of India about M2000 upgrade and Rafale ? Yes, and they inked their promises.