PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[Corax]

So no tie ! We can't use a tie on a collar never selled.

RC400 : it's clear, and never because of India, but mainly because we were sure it fall under chineses hands.
MICA : never seen any news about it.

Promises of India about M2000 upgrade and Rafale ? Yes, and they inked their promises.

Then you don't know much, do you. You stopped transfer of ROSE upgraded Mirage III during Kargil war. Mica was meant to be included with RC400, you don't know anything. You answered your own question, you stopped selling arms to Pakistan in exchange for a larger market in india. But that's ok, it's just business, at least accept it and be honest. Both the US and Europeans lost the Pakistan arms market to China and now Turkey.

 

[Reichmarshal]

What is the remaining life span of your F16 fleet ?
At the end, no more US tie. (but a chinese one... best today, but tomorrow ?)

They r good to go beyond 2040s from a structural stand point (little less for ADF acquired from jordon) As their structural life is 8000 hrs while PAF mlu package extended the life of our F 16 to 12000-15000 hrs.. N if our fleet goes through a ozgur upgrade or gets the block 70 kits then they will remain relevant n up to date with an easa radar, ew n weapons package etc

 

[Reichmarshal]

sir can paf integrate turkiye missiles on f 16s without any restriction?

Ozgur upgrade is a very comprehensive package n basically replaces all relevant sys with Turkish sys, including ew, radar etc....thus removing all u.s restrictions in form of kill switches etc.
Wt the client AF remains dependent on the u.s are the engine.

After the delivery of the first 30 some ozgur f 16 to the TUAF.
Turkey has cancelled the order for V upgrade kits from LM. Neaning now all TUAF f16 will go through the ozgur upgrade instead.

 

[Reichmarshal]

for Turkish upgrades to our F-16s we need US approval

Now is the best time to get one

 

[BonPlan]

You're an idiot, copying Wikipedia is all you can do?! Get your facts right froggie, you blocked the transfer of the first batch of ROSE upgraded mirages in 1999 during the Kargil war...Google is your friend. And yes, you've proved my point, the RC400 and MICA were part of the same deal., no RC400 meant no MICA, that's the whole point dickhead. Honestly, you are one thick shit who doesn't know anything.

How to block a batch of something when the supplier was away 1 year before?

 

[BonPlan]

Yes, you managed to spell check me, but claim to work for Dassault and did not know about the aircraft collection there, the biggest in France and largest private collection in the world. All this is documented in your posts Paj. So please, have some honour (if that is possible with your ilk) and admit this.

Have a nice glass of "Burgundy" now.... hahahaha

You may work for Renault and drive a BMW.
You may work in Dassault and not have your flying licence.
You may have worked for Dassault and not known a big collection of jets in the grass.

 

[Yasser76]

You may work for renault and drive a BMW.
You may work in Dassault and not have your flying licence.

You may come on PDF claiming to be an aviation enthusiast and not know about the largest private collection of military jets in a town an hour or so away.

More you post the more you reveal yourself Rakesh., Have you worked out that Burgundy is a type of wine and not a brand yet? You must be on ChatGPT half the time trying to live up to the lie....

 

[Yasser76]

You're an idiot, copying Wikipedia is all you can do?! Get your facts right froggie, you blocked the transfer of the first batch of ROSE upgraded mirages in 1999 during the Kargil war...Google is your friend. And yes, you've proved my point, the RC400 and MICA were part of the same deal., no RC400 meant no MICA, that's the whole point dickhead. Honestly, you are one thick shit who doesn't know anything.

Easy, that is an insult to thick shits the world over...

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

China is trying their best to sell military products to Pakistan. China do not have a choice to deny. Its upto Pakistan to decide. If China denies then nobody will trust china ever. Every country will think that what if they do same with spare parts or backstab when required. China is seen already with suspicion in most of the world. It do not have many allies. Its building its reputation. It simply is not in the position to dictate.

We already showed the commitment to buy more J-10C from China, recent press conference by PAF we are going to buy more J-10C from China

 

[maxpane]

Ozgur upgrade is a very comprehensive package n basically replaces all relevant sys with Turkish sys, including ew, radar etc....thus removing all u.s restrictions in form of kill switches etc.
Wt the client AF remains dependent on the u.s are the engine.

After the delivery of the first 30 some ozgur f 16 to the TUAF.
Turkey has cancelled the order for V upgrade kits from LM. Neaning now all TUAF f16 will go through the ozgur upgrade instead.

now its the same question. would usa allow this upgrade ? why usa allow it? ozgar can give f 16 true multi role capabilities and usa wnt allow that

 

[baqai]

stop with the insults @Yasser76 @BonPlan @Corax

 

[LX1111]

So no tie ! We can't use a tie on a collar never selled.

RC400 : it's clear, and never because of India, but mainly because we were sure it fall under chineses hands.
MICA : never seen any news about it.

Promises of India about M2000 upgrade and Rafale ? Yes, and they inked their promises.

China won the APG-66 in the 1980s.
We really don't care for these French junk.

 

[RocketLaw]

After Pakistan, now Bangladesh is now acquiring J-10CE if that's true

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Remember a few years ago at the China Air Show? It was a big event but almost nobody came to see the J-10CE. Attendance was ZERO and then suddenly bad heavy raining. You can see the plastic covers over the cockpits in the video, everyone laughed.

At that time, many people said the J-10CE was lousy, unreliable, and poorly built.

However, after Pakistan's success in the war, those opinions turned out to be wrong.