PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[Oscar]

Is that because the Chinese view it as their top tier tech and China doesn't usually export their top tier stuff?

Its because the Sino-Flanker is forbidden through agreements with Russia for export.
Now, part of it also was modification but @Deino may know better as to how that was “allowed” while exports remain restricted.

Consider why over the nearly 20 years Sino-flankers have existed and nearly 10+ years they have been flying with domestic engines - they have never been once brought up for export to Pakistan. To the extent the PAF has evaluated Su-35 as a potential during recent thawing of relations but never the discussion. PAF pilots on exchange with PLAAF flew Su-30MKKs and even J-11Bs but never have sino-flankers come up even when desired for certain strike roles.

To the aspect that models of J-20 and J-31 surface at airshows but never the Sino-flanker for export.

That being said - even IF the sino-flankers were available for export - the price point for the aircraft would be fairly prohibitive to do anything at scale especially with how the aircraft have a greater signature exposure and operate best with depth.

 

[Pakistan First]

Jokes aside, I can see a legitimate use case for the J-16 in limited numbers, particularly for the PAF in long range strike and maritime support missions alongside the Pakistan Navy. That said, would China even be willing to export it, and could Russia create complications because of the aircraft’s Su-27 lineage and intellectual property history?

The bigger question is affordability. Pakistan’s economy is already under considerable pressure, while the PAF also wants to induct fifth generation fighters such as the J-35 and potentially KAAN. Would there realistically be enough money to acquire and sustain all these different platforms, along with their weapons, training, infrastructure, and maintenance requirements? Even if the J-16 is available, would introducing another small fleet be a wise investment, or would that money be better spent expanding and improving the J-10CE and JF-17 fleets?

Its completely out of question. Its not available for export at all. Even if it was, the cost is impossible to bear.

"Limited numbers" is what we get J-10C for.

Let's hope economy is revived to get more JF-17Cs. PAF still has to replace good for nothing F-7PGs and ancient mirages.

only the mirages would get deplated and they could essentailly be rebuild at karama.
besides are there more jf-17 still in production?

the f-7 are the more modern varient in service so part from retired stil there along with chinese assistance they will be fine.

Nope. Mirages atleast have a utility of dropping ALCMs. But F-7pgs don't have any utility left in modern air combat. They can't carry stand off missiles, can't do BVR, Can't be refueled in air. What you are going to do with an aircraft that has short range old generation air to air missiles, small range and no offensive role ?

 

[Deino]

Ever consuder j15 with ws15 engines , thick ram coating and full spectrum ew .... just an academic question

Will not happen since the J-15 itself is „old“ already …