PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

Dear this forum has a diverse membership, including a few technical experts, some enthusiastic fans, and many silent observers.

The terms FC31, J31, J35, J35A, etc., can be confusing for many members, especially those without technical knowledge or who don't follow related discussions. While it's important to use accurate terminology, sometimes it's necessary to infer the correct meaning from context, even if the members themselves may not be aware of the distinctions. I expect this issue to persist for some time, at least until a formal announcement is made with a specific name.

Regarding the timeline, I still anticipate a 2028 timeframe for the full induction of these aircraft into the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). It's possible that a small number of jets (2-5) might arrive earlier (Before Dec 2026), followed by the commencement of Chinese orders and then the PAF's main induction in 2028. However, this is just my guess.
You know, I have to go through translation software for everything I do in PDF. It's a huge hassle and it takes me at least 10 minutes to seriously reply to a post ..........

Is it possible to merge this thread directly with the main J35 thread?
These two threads have too much similar and duplicate content.
 
You know, I have to go through translation software for everything I do in PDF. It's a huge hassle and it takes me at least 10 minutes to seriously reply to a post ..........

Is it possible to merge this thread directly with the main J35 thread?
These two threads have too much similar and duplicate content.

Among these two threads, one is dedicated to the Chinese FC-31/J-31/J-35/J-35A, while the other is for the PAF version and it's Pakistan related developments. You are lucky that this topic has only two main threads, otherwise in PDF, many users often create new threads for every piece of news, even if it's about a similar topic. I often report them to mods/admin and they combine those threads.

Anyway tag admins, if they realize to combine threads then they might be able to combine these threads.
 
Indeed we are friends but that does not change this issue nor does it correct his errors! I told him already the same.
Here is another one from him.
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Yes, like I said as much as I like him, he is just quoting this rumour:

I earlier said that I fell that a few examples J-31 might be inducted by 23rd March 2025 but got stung by criticism . I still stand with my opinion. I understand, apparently things are folded in layers. So. it is really hard to say with firm belief. However, things are rolling and being changed with rapid pace. Let see....

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View attachment 43500Some military bloggers in China believe that j31? It was not developed from the fc312.0 version, but based on the Navy's J-35, a land-based air force version was developed. Additionally, with the J-31? The pictures of it continue to flow out, indicating that someone took pictures of it last year and learned about some test flight information. It was not until permission was granted in the middle of this year that it was publicly released online

J31, Fc31, J35s are not so much different planes, just like F35s, is it not possible China is fully concentrating on the J35s with 6 prototypes already build and China is also like you mentioned possibly building a land version from the J35s, so the final production plane is nearly ready.
 
Hi,

I had mentioned a few days ago that the design of the J31 has been frozen---.

It is in the final stages ready for the production to begin---.

It would be interesting to see if it is the Paf that gets the first batch of aircrafts---.

The way things are moving forward---I would not be surprised if it is.

It's possible whilst we all are thinking about fc31, China is building J35 for navy and a variant of it for land.
 
J31, Fc31, J35s are not so much different planes, just like F35s, is it not possible China is fully concentrating on the J35s with 6 prototypes already build and China is also like you mentioned possibly building a land version from the J35s, so the final production plane is nearly ready.
OK. Since this latest news on the J35 code issue is the latest I've released, I'll go into more detail about it.

FC-31
SAC designed this aircraft for the export market and did not receive any PLA support at the time. It used FC-31 as the code for this aircraft.

In the development of the FC-31, it has undergone several major upgrades. We usually refer to it as “FC-31 Ver 1.0”, “FC-31 Ver 2.0”, “FC-31 Ver 3.0”. ......
Since there has been no official word from PLA about it, we can't use the “J” prefix to refer to it. However, at an airshow, a model of a "歼-31" aircraft appeared (corporate behavior). Although there was still no official news about PLA, people started to use the code “J-31”.
Later, some military commentators started to use the new codes (J-31 = FC-31 Air Force version, J-35 = FC-31 Navy version) to express it in some civilian TV programs. These codes were widely disseminated among Chinese civilians.SAC and PLA did not issue any official statement on this. ------ These codes are also widely used internationally, including PDFs.

Some time ago, I purposely sought answers from insiders in the military industrial system, and got a reply.The official codes currently used by the FC-31 in the military industrial system are:
J35 (WS21). Foreign trade export version
J35A(WS19). PLAAF own-use version
J35x (WS21): PLA Navy shipboard version. The PLA Navy has named it, and it still uses the “J35” series, but the last letter is unknown to us. Our guess is that it will be one of “H”, “T”, or “J”.
Note: These are the codes used in the military production system, which is still not officially published by PLA.
Since I first posted this message in the PDF, and not in Chinese social media, no one in Chinese social media knows about this message, unless they quote me from the PDF.

People can use the previous way of describing it, or they can use the latest news I provided. Until the official naming news comes out, all changes are possible.

This is about the evolution of the FC-31 family of codes.

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“FC” meaning “Fighter China”. The Chinese code for the JF-17 was FC-1.

When China exported their fighter jets in the very early days, they didn't use a special export code, they exported them directly using the original code. For example: J6, J7 ......
Later on, in order to cater to the international market, China started to use “FC” as the special prefix code for fighter export. FC-1, FC-31, etc. The J10 used to use “FC-20” as the export code as well. But, in practice, “FC” is very misleading, and people doubt whether it is the weapon used by PLA, and thus doubt the capability of these weapons.

Now, China began to use “PLA code + E” to name the export weapon code.
 
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J31, Fc31, J35s are not so much different planes, just like F35s, is it not possible China is fully concentrating on the J35s with 6 prototypes already build and China is also like you mentioned possibly building a land version from the J35s, so the final production plane is nearly ready.


Since when are we sure that „the J35s with 6 prototypes already build“?

Confirmed are three with a fourth likely seen in green primer.
 
J31, Fc31, J35s are not so much different planes, just like F35s, is it not possible China is fully concentrating on the J35s with 6 prototypes already build and China is also like you mentioned possibly building a land version from the J35s, so the final production plane is nearly ready.
Let's wait and see if this fighter jet will appear at this year's Zhuhai Airshow
 
So it looks like my prediction of IOC for J-31 into PAF in 2026-2028 was pretty much spot on, with 2027-2028 more likely
 
So it looks like my prediction of IOC for J-31 into PAF in 2026-2028 was pretty much spot on, with 2027-2028 more likely


Sorry, we have no news that could led to a change in our estimate! So why do you think your previous - IMO totally unrealistic - prediction is now almost confirmed? The only one one who recently claimed this was a Twitter post since he found the repost here… looks almost as if some try to create their own proof by posting it here and at X and the reposting in return and claim it should confirm the first claim!
 
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Sorry, we have no news that could led to a change in our estimate! So why do you think your previous - IMO totally unrealistic - prediction is now almost confirmed? The only one one who recently claimed this was a Twitter post since he found the repost here… looks almost as if some try to create their own proof by posting it here and at X and the reposting in return and claim it should confirm the first claim!


Your own previous post with photo of J-35A in flight testing is one such piece of evidence.

J-35 for PLAN is in final stages of flight testing and so that bodes well for J-35A who will share radar, electronics and an almost identical engine with J-35

2027-2028 is still 3-4 years away and so those dates are realistic for PAF IOC.
 
Your own previous post with photo of J-35A in flight testing is one such piece of evidence.

J-35 for PLAN is in final stages of flight testing and so that bodes well for J-35A who will share radar, electronics and an almost identical engine with J-35

2027-2028 is still 3-4 years away and so those dates are realistic for PAF IOC.

Realistic yes maybe, a confirmation clearly not
 
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