PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[Ali_Baba]

I disagree, airforce is the only place that Pakistan can just spend relatively less money on a dozen jets and making a huge impact by controlling the sky of South Asia, when you have air superiority, you don't have to worry about a full fledge war with boots on the ground.

Agree - The Indians are in a state of shock right now of what their next move is. The J-35 will "compound" their problems for little increase in cost and it forms a greater deterrence "wall".

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

What's the point of picking on Deino?
There is no doubt that the tweet you retweeted is a 100% fake. It just exaggerates a bunch of people's basic consensus.

1, FC-31/J-35 foreign trade version. It was initially positioned for export to international markets. Pakistan is the biggest customer of Chinese military industry. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that “PAF will get it”.

2, We only analyze and judge its arrival time in Pakistan based on reality. In this regard, there is some controversy. Your original tweet describing “within 2 years” is a vague concept, which is in line with the expectations of most rational people, including me and Deino.

3. Again. There is no J-35AE! The current official press release implies that its export code is still “FC-31”. the J-35A is a PLAAF own-use version, not for export. All claims that PAF will get J-35AE can be considered as fake news.

Tagging Deino was a joke.

I also doubt some of reports as there is no urgency as PAF literally grounded IAF and shot down 5 or even 6 of Indian aircrafts. Pakistan is likely thinking of filling gaps in AD in short term.

 

[Michael]

Tagging Deino was a joke.

I also doubt some of reports as there is no urgency as PAF literally grounded IAF and shot down 5 or even 6 of Indian aircrafts. Pakistan is likely thinking of filling gaps in AD in short term.

Definitive news:
To date, suppliers of key subsystems for the J-35 series They have received orders from PLAAF and PLA Navy but not yet from CATIC.
What this news means is that no international customer has officially placed an order for the FC-31 (known to you as the J-35AE or J-35 Foreign Trade Edition). Including Pakistan of course.
Do I need to explain to you what “CATIC” is?

 

[Deino]

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Yes. I am …

 

[War Historian]

My guess would be Egypt

Has previous military relationship, Egypt has the Israeli threat to deal with which includes 5th gen F35, their current capability can't compete vs Israels.

I would still think this is years away.

Seriously.... Its hard believe it. That Egypt is getting Chinese 5th generation fighter before Pakistan. Recently Chinese had denied the news about the sale of J-10C to the Egypt. Then why they would sale their top notch fighter jet to an American ally. Where American can easily access those top Chinese fighter.?

 

[War Historian]

I disagree, airforce is the only place that Pakistan can just spend relatively less money on a dozen jets and making a huge impact by controlling the sky of South Asia, when you have air superiority, you don't have to worry about a full fledge war with boots on the ground.

You are right Sir, only 20/25 J-10C with a plenty of PL-15 change the whole air war in south Asia. They were ready to attack on more targets inside Pakistan. But suddenly their top line fighters Rafale,Su30 start falling from sky even they were all inside indian territory. That situation feared them of J-10C and PL-15 missile. In next 4 days of the war indian never came near to Pakistani border even they keep their jets more than 200 kms away from Pakistan border just make sure their safety from PL-15 and J-10C. So if we will induct some 20 or 30 J-35 in near future, it will gave a heart attack to indian war planners.

 

[Be dazzled]

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[Be dazzled]

What's the point of picking on Deino?
There is no doubt that the tweet you retweeted is a 100% fake. It just exaggerates a bunch of people's basic consensus.

1, FC-31/J-35 foreign trade version. It was initially positioned for export to international markets. Pakistan is the biggest customer of Chinese military industry. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that “PAF will get it”.

2, We only analyze and judge its arrival time in Pakistan based on reality. In this regard, there is some controversy. Your original tweet describing “within 2 years” is a vague concept, which is in line with the expectations of most rational people, including me and Deino.

3. Again. There is no J-35AE! The current official press release implies that its export code is still “FC-31”. the J-35A is a PLAAF own-use version, not for export. All claims that PAF will get J-35AE can be considered as fake news.

He doesn't want China to export those to Pakistan that too by 2026. He's against the deal or he just hates us Pakistanis. We love him though.

Just for fun. Nothing personal.

 

[ARMalik]

Actually, yes you do, you cannot claim to know about a military's procurement timeline and the exact nature of the specs they are receiving without credible sources, and more importantly if your reference is purely online fanboys and hopeful guesswork despite hard facts not even aligning with your predictions then your credibility and word is worthless.

127 Posts and already trying to lecture others. Smells like an indian from a mile away.

 

[Be dazzled]

RAS 72 is rolling somewhere.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

127 Posts and already trying to lecture others. Smells like an indian from a mile away.

Of course someone as childish and immature as people who take online fanpages as hard evidence now think people need to have thousands of posts to make a very simple & logical argument.

No wonder you folks are quite literally clowned by every other defence forum out there for the low quality garbage you post here

 

[Oscar]

Of course someone as childish and immature as people who take online fanpages as hard evidence now think people need to have thousands of posts to make a very simple & logical argument.

No wonder you folks are quite literally clowned by every other defence forum out there for the low quality garbage you post here

Does beg the question as to why you are here then if this place is so low quality.

 

[ARMalik]

Of course someone as childish and immature as people who take online fanpages as hard evidence now think people need to have thousands of posts to make a very simple & logical argument.

No wonder you folks are quite literally clowned by every other defence forum out there for the low quality garbage you post here

Geez, now you are at 128 posts - calm down little dicky. You are slipping over your own little pee-pee.

 

[Arsalan45]

Not airforce though but I can think of a system that India has no answer for atm,
the PHL-191 modular MRLS, equipped with 370mm rocket and 750mm bm flying at five to six Mach with range 500km at least similar to Russian Iskander, together with drone, sat or other surveillance means, it will bring havock upon Indian on both stationary and time sensitive targets.

It's a perfect option for the army to have deep strike capability, currently being mass produced in China.

@Panzerkiel Can you shed some light on if Pak army is suitable for such system?

There are signs and everything is written on the wall. One final war for Kashmir is pending. It can start anytime because next Indian attack will not stop due to domestic pressure. They now have portrayed themselves as victims of terrorism which is absolutely abysmal performance from our side including Stone Age foreign policy that still believes that Kashmir is still disputed. Our water has been stopped. Our mosques has been bombed and they are now openly talking about taking back our Kashmir as well. It too aggressive that requires equal aggressive policy.

I think we didn’t hit them well last because on our heart, we might be thinking about ceasefire. We must understand that this india is not india of vajpai or manmohan singh. This india is full of hatred and Bjp invested money on social media to make sure that every Indian thinks in the same aggressive way. Their policy worked but in any terrorist attack, pressure mounts rapidly and they have to answer their own people.

They are talking about our Kashmir and I think they will try. Those who think that they can’t attack us or invade us are living in dreams.

We should prepare ourselves and I am sure your choice of weapon is better for deep penetration of enemy territory. I am more worried about all our war. I may write a complete article and post a new thread. I think it time for us to prepare ourselves for sn all out war.

 

[ZSBD]

We need a jet or a long range bomber that can use stand-off weapons from our soil and hit Indian airbases. Do you suggest any jet or bomber that will do that for us? I know Chinese have so many jets. There must be solution as well. I think during recent mini war, we realized that we can’t target their airbases. In 2019, mirages was used for stand-off weapons but whether they crossed the border or not is not known. This time, we haven’t seen mirages using stand-off. It means we are going deep inside Pakistan and avoiding nearby border areas because of the range of Indian missiles. Same is true for iaf as well. Some of them came closer to border and were targeted by Paf. Problem is still there. How to target Indian airbases using stand-off ? Which jet and which stand-off weapon because you need greater range because of going deep in order to avoid a lock on.

It has been several years since anyone mentioned that the Pakistan Air Force should buy the JH-7A.
@MastanKhan , do you have a new favorite bomber?