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He is only saying not possibly in 2026.

 

[mdmm55]

Surely Pakistan will get them, no-one denies this, but they won’t come in about 6-8 weeks or even this year, IMO they won’t come before 2027 and they surely won’t be delivered to Pakistan first before the PLAAF since they don‘t know how to make a fighter combat-ready! That’s my Point.

Surely Pakistan will get them, no-one denies this, but they won’t come in about 6-8 weeks or even this year, IMO they won’t come before 2027 and they surely won’t be delivered to Pakistan first before the PLAAF since they don‘t know how to make a fighter combat-ready! That’s my Point.

Hi Deino.
I am a big fan of your true,geniune information and news.
Kindly confirm following news from Goverment of Pakistan,website,that Pakistan is getting them for sure..

HQ19 and KJ500 Offered for PAF,​

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Pakistan confirms acquisition of Chinese J-35 stealth fighters and integrated air defence systems - Defence Industry Europe

Pakistan has officially confirmed the acquisition of up to 40 Chinese J-35 fifth-generation stealth fighter jets, making it the first international operator of China’s newest stealth aircraft.

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Pakistan has officially confirmed the acquisition of up to 40 Chinese J-35 fifth-generation stealth fighter jets, making it the first international operator of China’s newest stealth aircraft. The deal marks one of Pakistan’s most significant military modernisation efforts in recent years...
According to official government announcements on social media, the acquisition also includes KJ-500 airborne early warning and control aircraft and HQ-19 ballistic missile defence systems. These additions represent a comprehensive upgrade to Pakistan’s aerial

 

[Deino]

Hi Deino.
I am a big fan of your true,geniune information and news.
Kindly confirm following news from Goverment of Pakistan,website,that Pakistan is getting them for sure..

HQ19 and KJ500 Offered for PAF,​

Source,Govt of Pakistan,
****************************************************************************

Pakistan confirms acquisition of Chinese J-35 stealth fighters and integrated air defence systems - Defence Industry Europe

Pakistan has officially confirmed the acquisition of up to 40 Chinese J-35 fifth-generation stealth fighter jets, making it the first international operator of China’s newest stealth aircraft.

defence-industry.eu

Pakistan has officially confirmed the acquisition of up to 40 Chinese J-35 fifth-generation stealth fighter jets, making it the first international operator of China’s newest stealth aircraft. The deal marks one of Pakistan’s most significant military modernisation efforts in recent years...
According to official government announcements on social media, the acquisition also includes KJ-500 airborne early warning and control aircraft and HQ-19 ballistic missile defence systems. These additions represent a comprehensive upgrade to Pakistan’s aerial

Well, thanks for your confidence in my opinion, but in fact I cannot!

All i can is give you a summary of events and try to individually explain what is indeed confirmed, what's a rumour and what's not!

First, there was indeed an official announcement via social media on X, that however was soon deleted:

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As such this post raises some important issues:

1. always "an offer" was mentioned only! Never it was claimed - at least in that official post - that a deal was signed, that pilots are training already or when they will be delivered! Nothing more and all claims posted here are unconfirmed rumours!

2. was it indeed a "confirmation" of a fact but why then was it deleted? Was it deleted since it was wrong or since someone officially mentioned something that better should be kept secret?

That's all ... anything else like "we already have them", "they will be delivered by late July", "the PLAAF needs us to make them combat ready" or even - the best BS read here - we get a FA-18-like variant since it is preferred" (and in fact the one is too stupid to identify a J-10CE!), "we get them with PL-17" is speculative, a rumour or just fake!

 

[Abdul q]

I don't like the ejection seat angle it should be at least as inclined as thunders for better G tolerance if not that of the f16s. Nevertheless, great news for the PAF.

Who will he pulling high Gs considering the BVR engagements and we may not see WVR..

 

[Deino]

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[Blain2]

Pakistani government has never, ever disclosed when weapons transfers would take place (unless the foreign supplier provides this information). This has been a policy of old.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Pakistani government has never, ever disclosed when weapons transfers would take place (unless the foreign supplier provides this information). This has been a policy of old.

Not entirely true. Most of the weapon programs were well announced and were highlighted in media. Let's just see few big ticket ones from last decade. Milgem / Babur corvettes, (the deals and every step of acquisition process & each milestone got media coverage with heads of state), Similarly Type54As were well announced and exact timelines were told. Even the most secretive "silent" service Pakistan navy submarine program Hangors is well known and timelines were also given (however, German engine export ban led to delay in original timelines). Similarly F-16 block52s, we knew when they were approved and govt told timelines for induction.

However in rare instances Govt kept it secretive like for J-10C and HQ9s. Those acquisitions were in response from India's acquisitions of Rafales / S400s, so if announced well in advance with timelines, that could have given Modi's india ample time to plan and maybe expedite any misadventure they were urging for.
As there was a capability gap after india's Rafale acquisition for a brief time. India could have exploited it.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Everyone who got excited on GOP tweet of KJ500, HQ19 and J-35s. Well I have to tell that take it with truckload of salt.

First let's see the credibility of GOP twitter handles. The ones who operates these twitter handles are the ones who operated their own political party twitter handles as well. We know their credibility & competence. We have seen the jingoism. Those guys have even used a game's screenshot during the indo-pak conflict.



Now, that tweet for KJ500, HQ19 & J-35 was total BS. That's why it got deleted next day. I know exactly where these three things come from. A few day earlier to that tweet an indian analyst Praveen Sawnhey (of whom Pakistanis are fan of, because he is critic of indian military) said that in his "analysis" Pakistan will aquire KJ500, HQ19 and J35s in future. So whoever political people were handling social media accounts of Govt took exactly those to flare up Pakistanis emotions and put in the tweet and that got deleted next day.

Now let's see these things one by one.

1- KJ500. Not going to happen, As PAF is solely committed to Saab platform. even the current chinese AEWCs were retired in favor of more Saab platforms. PAF operating nearly 10 of Saab's AEW&C. There's absolutely no shortage of these given Pak's airspace.

2- HQ 19. Its not even for export as far as I know. Secondly, Pakistan do not need a ballistic missile defense at the moment. Our highest priority is point defense systems for important / strategic locations like airbases. For this we need HQ-10s or HQ-17s or western counterparts. Not super expensive HQ-19 (which isn't even for export atm)

3- J-35s. In this case, the surprise was already removed when CAS Siddhu announced it about a year or two ago. He was referring to PAF's future planning. We need to understand, we only have 20 J-10CE at the moment for which the installments have to be paid till 2029 (according to some unverified document, but neverthess we know our economic situation and its obvious these equipments are very expensive) . So let's be realistic, there isn't a lot of billions of dollars laying around and there isn't any 5th gen fighters within India right now. What I see is another batch of J-10C maybe in 1-3 yrs and then probably a batch of J-35s later this decade.

 

[arsalan345]

Defense minister said no so it means all this was a lie by Pakistani government. They tweeted it from official page. I agree that China will never give Pakistan j-20. May be they will give it when they make their own 7th or 8th generation jet. J-36 looks very impressive.I Think Pakistan has original pl-15. Obviously it's a secret between two countries. China knows requirements of PAF and trying their best to assist. Official position is pl-15e.

I will not mind if we aren't getting j-35. What i want is a jet that fires everything like j-16 of China. We need J-16. There is no point of buying j-35. India doesn't even have a fifth generation jet.

 

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[iblini]

Defense minister said no so it means all this was a lie by Pakistani government. They tweeted it from official page. I agree that China will never give Pakistan j-20. May be they will give it when they make their own 7th or 8th generation jet. J-36 looks very impressive.I Think Pakistan has original pl-15. Obviously it's a secret between two countries. China knows requirements of PAF and trying their best to assist. Official position is pl-15e.

I will not mind if we aren't getting j-35. What i want is a jet that fires everything like j-16 of China. We need J-16. There is no point of buying j-35. India doesn't even have a fifth generation jet.

J-36 is over over kill in South Asia, not gonna happened in two decades.

 

[Quwa]

Not that I ever claim to know everything—I’m not collecting cherry points for twilight years, huzoor.

For the sake of clarity, let’s align on terminology:

• Customer confirmed: This has been established and is no longer contentious.
• PAF pilot training: Also confirmed through multiple reliable channels.
• PAF access to J-35 airframes: This is now fairly evident given the patterns of training and exposure.

Where opinions diverge is the claim that J-35s are currently on Pakistani soil in operational configuration.

That’s the assertion under dispute.

To draw a parallel, recall the F-35 program: Dutch, Turkish (prior to their program exit), and RAF pilots all trained extensively in the US. They flew prototypes and LRIP units, many of which were earmarked for eventual delivery. Yet those aircraft remained at stateside bases like Luke AFB until all operational clearances, political conditions, and basing logistics were in place.

So yes, pilot access and exposure to systems is part of the playbook. But a few familiarization flights in-country or abroad do not equate to full operational deployment.

We should perhaps resist the temptation to promote every bit of hearsay overheard in aviation-themed drawing rooms or whatsapp chats into “geo-strategic confirmation.”

Just throwing it out there, but "delivery" can also easily mean having a PAF team receive a J-35AE in PAF livery in China, but the fighter would remain in China until platform tests, training, and PAF logistics are all complete.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Our highest priority is point defense systems for important / strategic locations like airbases.

You do realise that it leaves airbases vulnerable to ballistic missiles if not cruise missiles?

 

[Abdul q]

J-36 is over over kill in South Asia, not gonna happened in two decades.

Considering vulnerable iranian and afghan airspace where entity can fly freely to long ranges we must prepare accordingly….. we need to secure iranian airspace incase of hostilities against iran itself for their and our own security