MS Sandhu
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Is there any open source information available regarding this system?
PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates
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Bilal
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It’s basically a last phase point defence, 30km range, quick reaction, built for taking out munitions in saturation attack.
Rational Philosopher
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India is also actively working on a hypersonic cruise missile (BrahMos 2) which is targeted to cruise at Mach ~8 with a range of 1500km so by the time a next skirmish happens that could very well be close to completion or put into production
Great Mal
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Listened to the Podcast some key points discussed, being the first radio, it did well.Episode 1 is up. We'll go into the BrahMos and how to stop it in Ep 2, will be out on Friday June 06th, with a PN-focused episode on June 13th.
Indo-Pak Conflict | The Fight Pakistan Wanted vs What It Got
Our analysts discuss how while Pakistan’s newly acquired HQ-9BEs from China helped, its air defence system had trouble stopping the BrahMos.quwa.org
Although @arslank01 wasnt given the space as much i would have expected, feel like he had some valid points he wanted to dive further into. Also never knew he was Brit good on you mate.
good job all around on hosting waiting for future deep dives on niche topics @Quwa
MS Sandhu
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It’s basically a last phase point defence, 30km range, quick reaction, built for taking out munitions in saturation attack.
look at missile design.Designed to intercept drones and at best low cost subsonic cruise missiles
Can't intercept prime weapons of enemy like Brahmos and Tactical Ballistic Missiles.
These low cost solutions should be locally produced.
Great Mal
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I was thinking more in terms of LY-70 more mobile & more missiles per launcher.
It’s basically a last phase point defence, 30km range, quick reaction, built for taking out munitions in saturation attack.
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Bilal
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
It is/was under consideration. Its image was shown in PAF videos too. Don’t know the current status.
My concern is multi-directional attack, since it’s not a 360 degree VLS.
HQ11 (FM3000) can be tied with LD3000. It’s a specialist terminal defence system.
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Bilal
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You came to that conclusion just by looking at the missile?
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MS Sandhu
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It's not very efficient design
I think its purpose is to handle cheap elements of saturation attack cost effectively.
For that we already have Spada 2000.
Bilal
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
It seems the slant range is 45Km. High capacity multi-target engagement. Seems very similar in capability to CAAM.
Path-Finder
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where is the podcast found?
Developereo
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We have known about BrahMos since 2016 but we were caught with our pants down. We had no effective defence against them (most of them got through) and we did not have our own version to fire back at India.
Will we be prepared for BrahMos 2?
How will we target BrahMos 2 launch sites scattered throughout India on the far side of India?
Great Mal
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Go on spotify or amazon music and type ‘Defence Uncut’
Michael
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You should read about the “Chinese National Missile Defense”; the HQ-9 series of SAMs is only one component of this system, not all of it.
Even the PLAN fleet air defense is composed of three layers of defense space: long-range defense, medium-range defense, and short-range defense. They are undertaken by different weapon systems, and the HHQ-9 series SAM is only one component of this system, not the whole one.
Different missile air defense systems have their own targets.
Long-range air defense missiles are generally larger (holding more propellant), it accelerates relatively slowly, and it takes some time to increase its flight speed. Also, long-range air defense missiles are not as maneuverable as close-range air defense missiles.
If it is used to intercept a close-range target, it does not have enough reaction time and will basically fail.
Proximity air defense missiles are smaller and very maneuverable. As soon as they leave the launch tube, they can immediately turn in a wide-angle maneuver.
There are a lot of question marks about the real capabilities of India's weapon systems.
1, The existing Brahmos system, although very powerful in India's propaganda, has a very poor real launch success rate and hit accuracy. Although it is a cruise missile system, the real launch success rate and hit accuracy is lower than China's long-range MLRS.
2. As for the hypersonic version of Brahmos, it is just a propaganda slogan.
With India's current technology, it is easy to push a missile to speeds above Mach 5 using rocket motors. But this is not a hypersonic missile.
In fact, any medium to long range ballistic missile has an end flight speed of more than Mach 5.
The real problem is that when the missile is at Mach 5 flight speed, it can still be controlled and its trajectory changed. India's last “hypersonic missile in a hat” test did not prove that they have this capability.
As for hypersonic missiles. Most of them are propaganda by politicians, and very few are actually successful hypersonic missiles.
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Cesur
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The HQ-19 is a better fit against this. The other thing we need to do is work further on electronic warfare capabilities to jam, disable, change trajectory of those missiles when they are launched.
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