PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates

[Desprado123]

It is a lesson that no defense system can properly tackle drones specially small one. You will see weekly news that Pakistani drone spotted in India. Drones are new reality and I am glad Pakistan really invested in this sector regardless of having an as@ kind of defense. For ace kind of defense we wil need a bule print from zero and invest or buy new equipment otherwise build underground settlers. What i mean is that possible 10 to 15 years ahead, both India and Pakistan will knockout each other defense via suicide drones and among 2 only one will who has tolerance of strikes intake will win.

 

[rafale]

1、The HQ-9 series SAM is positioned as a medium-to-long-range air defense system; the HQ-16 series SAM is positioned as a medium-to-short-range SAM. Their roles are completely different. Their interception range, interception altitude, radar detection capabilities, and missile size are all significantly different. Of course, this comparison is based on different sub-versions from the same era. You cannot compare the latest HQ-16 with the oldest HQ-9. Specific data can be found through many channels. ------ The HQ-9C is a "mini version" developed based on the HQ-9B technology. Its interceptor missile's operating range overlaps with the HQ-16 series, but its size is much smaller.

2. The HQ-9P in Pakistan is not a factory-grade version. It is a version customized for Pakistan based on the HQ-9A. The HQ-9BE in Pakistan is the standard export version of the HQ-9B.

Besides the difference in interception distance, there is also a difference in interception altitude. The HQ-9BE can intercept at an altitude of 50 km, while the HQ-16FE's maximum interception altitude is 27 km. The WZ-8 reconnaissance aircraft typically operates at an altitude between 30 km and 50 km, which is significantly higher than the HQ-16FE's maximum interception altitude.

So HQ9BE is well suited to counter ballistic missiles than HQ16FE?

 

[jstarandom]

It is a lesson that no defense system can properly tackle drones specially small one. You will see weekly news that Pakistani drone spotted in India. Drones are new reality and I am glad Pakistan really invested in this sector regardless of having an as@ kind of defense. For ace kind of defense we wil need a bule print from zero and invest or buy new equipment otherwise build underground settlers. What i mean is that possible 10 to 15 years ahead, both India and Pakistan will knockout each other defense via suicide drones and among 2 only one will who has tolerance of strikes intake will win.

yeah drones really messed up the conventional way of modern combat, im hoping we see more SHORADS or Anti-UAV like the LY-1, Type 625E and/or FK-3000s for close defense procured by the PAF/AADC, the Crotales and stuff cannot keep up anymore

 

[Michael]

So HQ9BE is well suited to counter ballistic missiles than HQ16FE?

The only way to describe it is as follows:

Under the same generation, the HQ-9BE detects targets earlier and launches interceptor missiles earlier than the HQ-16FE.

Of course, the HQ-9BE is also more expensive, including the cost of procuring the SAM system and the cost of interceptor missile consumption.

Ballistic missile interception typically involves a multi-layered air defense network. If the first layer fails, the second layer begins interception... and so on.

Currently, China's air defense network consists of:
Exoatmospheric defense: HQ-26/29
Atmospheric edge defense: HQ-19
Long-range intraatmospheric defense: HQ-9/HQ-22
Medium-range intraatmospheric defense: HQ-16/HQ-20
Short-range intraatmospheric defense: HQ-10/HQ-17

 

[RedRock]

Pakistan better be prepared for the $2billion worth of drones the Indians are buying. Just last week i read this news. Thats an insane amount of drones. They will be swarming all over pakistan. And if they are fpv drones we need to develop drones that fly around cutting the cables enmasse. We should have ciws everywhere along the border. The Indians will be looking for revenge and are preparing themselves with Israel's help. I hope our guys are well prepared

Just imagine are new hangor submarines parked at harbour being hit by these cheap drones. It would be an utter disaster. They should be building cages everywhere and have drones flying 24/7 capable of shooting down or cutting the cables of these fpv type of drones