PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates

[AeronautIR]

Which one should be used according to you?

Both simultaneously because they operate in completely different flight envelopes. C-802 is subsonic but is detected only at close range due to its sea skimming profile. CM-400 climbs to around 150,000 ft and then comes down at near hypersonic speeds. Together, they have a high chance of success against any IN ship.

 

[Toxic]

I think PN will also saturate coastal waters with kamikaze-capable USVs too, so even that asymmetrical scenario isn't easy-pickings for IN (and vice-versa).

It's also worth noting that geography works against India a little at sea (hence why the IN has to be a blue-water navy). Trade flows from the Arabian Sea and the Pacific, so the IN can't afford to escalate the risk at sea, as that could inadvertently disrupt trade to and from India (as merchants might worry about high-risk waters).

So, all in all, the IN probably doesn't want to escalate (which is how things seemed to have panned out in May 2025).

Also a announcement that PN will attack Merchant shipping to India if India attacks merchant shipping to Pakistan would skyrocket insurance premiums to insane level, far more then the levels seen during the red Sea crisis with the houthis, such a trade disruption would mean international actors will try to resolve the conflict as soon as possible.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

PN will attack Merchant shipping to India

How?? Any idea?

 

[Toxic]

How?? Any idea?

With this beast

 

[gusto]

Then how to defend against Brahmos armed CBGs?? Karachi and our surface fleet will be cooked

Pakistan should be proactive and take the initiative if such a situation arises and the situation begins to drag on.

A CBG if get settled in a position, it clearly will have an advantage to attack along with the sources on the ground in the airbases along the border with Sindh in the south.

besides they will keep PAF busy on other fronts to saturate our resources to gain maximum advantage in the sea.

we must not be reactive, but take them on in the first instant before they get positioned or maneuver to attack.

Karachi is the only established sea link we have, cannot be compromised. Ormara and Pasni are the other options to be developed for military use.

 

[rafale]

Harops performed miserable, barak performance is debatable even the IAF didn't mention that system

You mean to say both the Frenchies and Pissraelis fleeced the Indians? Or Indians are just inherently stupid?

 

[kimjongun]

Keep in mind that if the IN attacks Karachi with its CBG , the PAF would have to face the IAF and the IN air arm. this would be done to divide the stronghold of PAF .
Jeffs can confidently counter the mig29 threat of the IN but seeing the acquisition of rafales by the IN we would need more j10s or set aside a sperate squadron for the IN rafale threat.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Keep in mind that if the IN attacks Karachi with its CBG , the PAF would have to face the IAF and the IN air arm. this would be done to divide the stronghold of PAF .
Jeffs can confidently counter the mig29 threat of the IN but seeing the acquisition of rafales by the IN we would need more j10s or set aside a sperate squadron for the IN rafale threat.

While IN may have ordered Rafales for their CBG, it is questionable how effective they will be operating from that aircraft carrier. Time will tell.

The answer to the Rafale is either more J10CE's or J-35AE's as well as long range ballistic missile based anti-shipping missiles, as well as ALCM etcs.

 

[CSAW]

"Warheads of the FD-2000 and LY-80 surface-to-air missile systems were showcased at Zhuhai Airshow.
These systems are export variants of China’s HQ-9 and HQ-16, respectively, and are designed to engage a wide range of aerial threats with precision and extended range."



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[Bilal]

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@farooqbhai which system is this? Is this one of our own development?

 

[kimjongun]

@farooqbhai which system is this? Is this one of our own development?

Its Spada 2000

 

[Bilal]

Its Spada 2000

last picture in that post is Spada. Maybe it’s the angle that it looks different.

 

[RocketLaw]

We really need more than 200,000+ air defences and should be massively upgraded after May 2025 and Iran situations, let's improve systems!

 

[Bilal]

We really need more than 200,000+ air defences and should be massively upgraded after May 2025 and Iran situations, let's improve systems!

~300 billion dollars is the rough price tag of what you are asking for.