Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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taliban has been attacking Pakistan with its proxies for 20 years. We are perfectly within our right to bomb Afghanistan repeatedly for atleast 6 months until TTP and BLA networks are destroyed.

We need to do it regularly and also consider punishment strikes


We KNOW the villages and areas in Afghanistan where the BLA and TTP are holed up

If they attack Pakistan

THEN ATTACK AND WIPE OUT THESE VILLAGES

If they try to attack Pakistans infrastructure, then hit their village wells, markets

Its time to go after our enemies, we have tried everything else, it's time for War

India is enemy number 1 more the Afghans are not far behind
 
I can't jerk off the truth for you , behind the bush or not....
Ok, so I guess you have no answer for what the Pakistani armed forces are doing to prevent India from using Afghanistan as a base to carry out terrorist attacks against Pakistan.
 
I wonder how can a post openly threatning genocide of any people can be taken lightly. Specially by a forum mod. Specially after the Gaza genocide.
Is that your takeaway here? He has been challenged on his rhetoric, he has been thread banned. What more would you like me to do? Drag him to the ICJ?

You saw the same post I did, I challenged it, and all you did was post this short two lines -the forum has a report feature:
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Next time instead of standing on the soapbox and complaining - be an upstander and take action.
 
Agreed. Listen to this what Gen Tariq is saying re Murad Saeed and who resettled them

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Again, right now, we are too far gone into this mess to have any sane conversation. Both sides are playing to the extreme, reductionist views, and just a bad situation. But to lay it all on PTI is just absolving yourself of responsibility. PTI's policy as a party is not costing you lives, it's your own incompetence. When you won't even accept that, you won't being to improve at all. CTD KP and Police has been fighting in all these districts as well to their capacity.


Sir - you are implying as if PTI being in power was opposing the resettlement (quoting Murad Saeed) while it was Generals doing the deed -- which is not true -- Bajwa and IK were both hand in glove with each other.


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So, did DG ISPR confirm Mehsud's death?
 
PTI's policy as a party is not costing you lives, it's your own incompetence. ..

It's not incompetence, but intent... a calculated design to keep artificial conflicts alive for profit and power.. Those at the top keep cashing in while those at the bottom keep paying the price. Everything else, DJ Babu’s political theatrics and the staged airshow, is just a performance to keep the crowd distracted....
 
My guess is that things must be underway to get PTI out of KPK if they keep ruining KPK , otherwise DGISPR would never bash them openly this way.

This did not seem like a normal bashing. Between the lines, this was pretty much 'work for KPK & get in line against terrorism or you won't be relevant anymore'.

Can they do that ? As per the constitution ?


Your answer to this question will also help you understand who is the problem. PTI led KP government do not control border.
 
First of all. All the people involved in resettling ttp in fata should be hanged. This was treason with the people of kpk. The people of fata. Kp police and fc and army soldiers. I mean why what was the reason for this. I can't seem to find any logical reason .

The idea was probably the same aman ka asha bullshit

Hey they are our brothers, they are ethnic kin

U.S will fail be kicked out, if we show kindness and humanity and let the TTP and their families live in areas

Then may these people will see the need for decency and humanity and maybe we could build on this positivity and start getting true peace




What they continue to fail to understand is that the Afghan kaum are donkeys in human form and they don't see things that way

The more space you give them, the more they will act like haramis


The idea was good
It was based upon hope and positivity

But for those ideas to work you have to have RATIONAL HUMAN BEINGS, not afghanis with their lizard brains
 
I’ve been observing this forum for some time, along with discussions on Twitter, and I visit Pakistan annually, where I interact with people directly. A concerning trend I’ve noticed, especially here in this thread last 7-8 pages of conversations, is the polarized mindset among Pakistanis. Broadly, there are two groups: those who are pro-establishment, often with strong anti-Imran Khan sentiments and unwavering support for figures like Asim Munir, and PTI supporters who idolize Imran Khan where they are first pro estab or pro imran and later a pakistani. Additionally, some individuals display extreme prejudice, unfairly blaming Pashtuns and Baloch for societal issues.

A core issue is the lack of accountability. While an FIR can be filed against a prime minister or any civilian, no one dares or can file one against a serving military officer, even a captain (captain hamad example below). When any group is placed above the law, justice cannot prevail. Similarly, PTI supporters must acknowledge that Imran Khan has made questionable decisions and is not some messiah, such as appointing Pervez Khattak, a political opportunist who switched parties multiple times before taking oath as Chief Minister, or Ali Amin Gandapur, whose leadership has been controversial. koyi aik b sahe bandha nahi lagaya. aur has done alot of blunders and many decisions.

My main message is this: as Muslims, our primary loyalty should be to Allah, His Prophet, and Islam. As Pakistanis, our second loyalty should be to Pakistan—not to any political party, leader, or establishment. Support whom you wish, but if you are Muslim and Pakistani, fear Allah aur hamesha haq aur sachayi ka saath dein and secondly prioritize Pakistan’s well-being. Stop blindly defending every action of your chosen leaders; no one is infallible. I’ve said this before and will repeat: after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the last prophet, until the arrival of Imam Mahdi or Prophet Isa (AS), the best system for Muslims is one based on consultation (shura), mutual deliberation, and a democratic process akin to a board of governors, where no individual has absolute authority, regardless of their status. aap beshak ghaus e azam iss waqt kay ya iss dour kay mujjadad ko laga kay dictator bana dein wo bairha ghark kar dega mukammal naik nayeti say b.

This younger generation seems unaware of the historical context especailly those pro establishment, e.g the Zia era and its consequences, as they haven’t studied history. the first TLP naik muhammad was the fruit of zia USSR war which was trained by army for afghanistan war and later killed while peace was negotiated by US drone. and then this TTP is born the baakiyat of afghan war and the gift of establishment to the people of KPK. phir kahtay ye kpk walay saaray esay hain.

Similarly for afghanistan, I recommend reviewing the historical context below. Had Najibullah not been removed and had Pakistan avoided meddling in Afghanistan post-USSR, fostering friendly relations instead, the deep-seated resentment among Afghans might have been avoided. Also, Musharraf’s actions, such as in balochistan protecting Captain Hamad in the Dr. Shazia rape case, and later resorting to miliatry action led to the deaths and disappearances of many Baloch, marking the beginning of enforced disappearances that continue today. the bajaur 70 children killed by US drone accepted by pakistan army balkay us waqt ISPR ki press conference abi b hai kay sab terrorist thay? ab unkay family main kayio nay uskay baad gun utha li hogi?

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a controversial figure, has been accused of causing significant destruction and civilian deaths in Kabul during the early 1990s who was supported and armed by your favourite general hamid gul, who as earned the title "Butcher of Kabul" by some analysts (Coll, 2004). According to Peter Tomsen, the U.S. Special Envoy to Afghanistan (1989–1992), Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) hired Hekmatyar in 1990 to conquer Afghanistan in pursuit of Pakistani interests. This plan was delayed until 1992 due to U.S. pressure (Tomsen, 2011).

Shahnawaz Tanai, a member of the Khalq faction of the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan, was a hardline nationalist and anti-mujahideen figure. Despite his ideological differences, Tanai formed an unlikely alliance with Hekmatyar’s Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin in 1990 to overthrow Najibullah’s regime. Tanai rejected peace initiatives, favoring a military solution. Hekmatyar intensified attacks on Kabul to support Tanai’s coup, which followed a failed Khalqist coup attempt in December 1989 (Rubin, 2002). This coup took place a year after the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan (Giustozzi, 2000).

**Sources:**
1. Coll, S. (2004). Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001.
2. Tomsen, P. (2011). The Wars of Afghanistan: Messianic Terrorism, Tribal Conflicts, and the Failures of Great Powers.
3. Rubin, B. R. (2002). The Fragmentation of Afghanistan: State Formation and Collapse in the International System. Yale University Press.
4. Giustozzi, A. (2000). War, Politics and Society in Afghanistan, 1978–1992. Georgetown University Press.


In the end, I urge everyone to first be Muslims and stand for truth and justice. Then, be Pakistanis and prioritize the well-being of Pakistan, thinking beyond personal interests, provinces, or ethnicities, and focusing solely on the collective good of the nation. After that, whether you choose to support the establishment, Imran Khan, or any other group, do so freely. This approach will benefit both your worldly life and the hereafter, as well as Pakistan’s prosperity.
 
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