Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Signalian]

Stay blessed.

Aithay rakh.... pyar do-pyar lo

TTP ya PAF capability ko discuss karnay koi nai interested.

 

[uknwit]

You can't force me to reply to you if I don't want to bro.
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No problem bro love you lol. Just keep an open mind before calling out names. Not everyone who is against the current policies and way of ruling (goverment) is against the country itself we all want things to get better and take the country in the right direction.

 

[Signalian]

I meant in literal sense not just a common thread of all of them being extremists. Like commanders jumping from one brand to the other as it suits. There might be a core cadre but there have been reports of people moving across.

Should PAF be interested in taking out members of other factions too then ?

 

[RescueRanger]

Aithay rakh.... pyar do-pyar lo

TTP ya PAF capability ko discuss karnay koi nai interested.

Sir ap yeh baat kar rahin hain - earlier I could have injected a debate about which haleem is better Lahore or Pindi and it would have gained more traction.

 

[Watandar]

Ok here is a question for you.

How can Pakistan play ball with China to get its interests (mainly against TTP) straightened inside Afghanistan ?

I had linked an article in #1206 that has some of the answers to your question

Pakistan’s Upgrade to Diplomatic Ties With the Taliban Should Not Be Seen in Isolation

India and China’s own moves vis-a-vis Afghanistan may have influenced Pakistan’s decision.

thediplomat.com

China wants Afghanistan and Pakistan to move on and build a new triangular relationship based on peace, trade and minerals. That will result in a slow but permanent transformation of both countries, just like how China transformed over the last 40 years.

Chinese are not interested in another 20 years of violence in Pakistan Afghanistan nor another 50 years of Pakistan India conflict. I dont think Establishment is getting the message.

 

[Bilal]

Should PAF be interested in taking out members of other factions too then ?

Well right now?
As they say, how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

 

[Signalian]

Sir ap yeh baat kar rahin hain - earlier I could have injected a debate about which haleem is better Lahore or Pindi and it would have gained more traction.

haleem le aye to Phir ye kahengay k discussion off topic ho gayi.

Im still stuck in thinking that sniper pod is better than any pod of Mirage-V that PAF used F-16's. It raises a question that what are Mirage-V for ? A backup strike force for JFT block IIs and F-16s perhaps.

Previously PAF couldnt integrate weaponry on F-16s due to various reasons and so work on Mirages began like ROSE upgrades but F-16 has weapon carriage capacity, range, avionics, pod and even A2G weapon.

They should retire Mirages if F-16 takes the strike lead inside Afghanistan ?

 

[Signalian]

Well right now?
As they say, how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

Realistically, Taliban are aligned with India and TTP is damaging Pakistan daily. AQ and IS are on the sides for now.

 

[RescueRanger]

This forum is made for discussion. Analysis is a part of it, no one is a policy maker here but everyone has to strive to reach verdicts to satisfy inner cravings of geopolitical designs.

Somehow, the analysis side has died down and its become even more difficult to steer members towards an analysis of a given situation.

I posted very detailed analysis and even simulations but people were too busy arguing about politics to pay it any serious mind. I can dredge them up again if you want to have a read but will have to go through several pages. Give me a moment.

 

[Ghaznavi101]

My dear old friend - you must appreciate that in heated environments like this thread the word Afghan is used very loosely - You know I helped build a school in Afghanistan right? We even helped train the teachers and girls there in First Aid. I would love to see a friendly and prosperous Afghanistan on our western border but that cannot happen in the present environment - as for any territorial claims this can be discussed and addressed when InshaALLAH sensible people once again sit in Kabul.

But should that day ever come - sane voices like you must hold them to account, you mustn't let snakes like Khalilzad get his hooks into your nation once again - which he is still very much trying to do by the way.

As for the deportations - this is happening because as you will have noticed the general mood not just in Pakistan but globally is one of protectionism and anti-immigration.

But for all this to change - the Afghan people have to then fight for their rights be it through an international forum or a third party mediator (not stakeholders in the region) that way you can comfortably say that any agreement or solution is independent of interference either from India or Pakistan and the detractors sitting both inside Afghanistan and outside will have no leg to stand on.

Im glad you said "sensible people AGAIN". Because as you can see the posts, one of your fellow country man(likely a kid) said they would kill me first before a Talib.
Honesty brother, the Republic was Pakistan's best bet, they were held to international law, not all but some sensible people in there. It represented Afghanistan properly, ethnically. But unfortunately, like I said. There's really no going back.
Who has the power to remove Taliban and fight them for another 20 years and some. Especially with the crazy a$$ weapons left to them by CIA.
I wish you the best on eliminating these goat fkrs.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

ok will be waiting for it , lets see what videos u have that Washington post didn't

So who was to blame for all the afghanis crap before zia?

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Honestly the victim complex afghans have is as bad as the Jews, maybe you are the lost tribe of Israel

I didnt talk about afghanistan ? why are you bringing afghan to my response? i am talking about generals and KPK?

 

[Bilal]

Realistically, Taliban are aligned with India and TTP is damaging Pakistan daily. AQ and IS are on the sides for now.

That is why it’s not time for taking more bites. But let’s first see how effective these sporadic one off kind of strikes are in the first place.

 

[Ghaznavi101]

Looks like the regime change is the most optimized solution that can satisfy all the stakeholders on Afghanistan who're at the receiving end....

My rule of thumb: whoever Bharat aids in evil falls....

DG ISPR Media Talk | Attack in Afghanistan | Senior Journalist Najam Sethi Historical Analysis

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Who would you replace them with? Northern Alliance don't exist, and they don't trust you. They were in the government up until 2014, were worse than Taliban.

Now before you say Turkey can do it loll, Pakistan asked Turkey to F off as afghanistan is their backyard.

OR, make afghanistan a 5th province, which will make Balochistan a walk in the park.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Signalian

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Timeline and Geolocation
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Timeline of Events:
9 Oct 2025 (~22:00 local Kabul time reported) — Explosions reported/heard in Kabul (Abdul Haq Square area; some mentions of Shar-e-Naw). Taliban spokesman says authorities are investigating; initial Taliban statements reported no casualties or major damage. (AP reporting.)

10 Oct 2025 — social & regional reporting — Multiple regional sites, local TV snippets and social platforms began circulating claims the Kabul explosions were Pakistani airstrikes and that TTP leader Noor Wali Mehsud was killed. These claims were published on smaller/regional outlets and widely shared on social media but lacked independent verification from major wires.

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Verification:
Several regional and social platforms (Amu TV, Livemint coverage quoting regional reporting, various social posts and video channels) rapidly published claims that Noor Wali Mehsud was killed in the strike(s). These are claims — not corroborated by major international wire services.

What is verified:
Verified / well-sourced:

1. Explosions were widely reported/heard in Kabul on the night of 9–10 Oct 2025 and the Taliban said it was investigating. (AP)

What is uncertain/not-verified:
That Noor Wali Mehsud was killed in these events — numerous regional outlets and social posts claim this, but major international wires and official Pakistani/Taliban confirmations were not present or remained ambiguous in the reporting. (Amu TV, Livemint reporting; Wikipedia updated).

Noise / low-reliability indicators:
Rapid circulation of videos and posts on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and other platforms claiming to show the strikes — many such clips are unverified, and earlier incidents have been repeatedly reused during previous flare-ups.

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Geolocation:

[34.53306, 69.20113]

[Low to medium confidence]
Methodology:
1: Visual Clues: a plume of smoke/glow on the horizon at night
1. Landmarks: with a distinctive vertical minaret, the foreground appears to be a rooftop viewpoint with low parapet walls.
2. Terrain: Kabul Basin
3. Built Environment/Street Furniture: Electricity Pylons, street lights, traffic

Analysis: Based on the fixed location reference points the location of the strike in this video is Abdul Haq Square, Kabul.

Second I cross-referenced the second most popular image shared 3,000 times on X:

Geolocation: 34.53182, 69.20363

Methodology:
1: Visual Clues: Cross referencing fixed reference points in Image B sheds - semi paved roads and trees/vegetation
1. Landmarks: sheds with corrugated sheet rooftops
2. Terrain: Kabul Basin
3. Built Environment/Street Furniture: Electricity Pylons, street lights, traffic

Analysis: Based on the fixed location reference points the location of the strike in this image can be likely attributed to a walled compound in the Abdul Haq Square area of Kabul near Makroyan Road.

 

[Bilal]

I posted very detailed analysis and even simulations but people were too busy arguing about politics to pay it any serious mind. I can dredge them up again if you want to have a read but will have to go through several pages. Give me a moment.

My brother. Let’s at least agree on what fueled the fire before again putting the blame on us nobodies. The ill advised presser should not have happened, at least not right now.

Like everyone was awaiting updates on last night and what we got was an angry tirade about politics.