Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Reichsmarschall]

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[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

congratulations from Pak.

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[falcon34]

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We can deter TTA how the fk are we to deter India. Truly sad state. Hope the ones for this kind of mess suffer.

 

[krash]

No excuses, I'm presenting their rationale, and was adamant that I disagree with it.

You clearly didn't read my comments, or you would t be saying this.

Their rationale is that they are naive and that it's ok for them to be because other parties did it 10-15 years ago? That makes no sense. You should read my posts again.

My point with bringing up other parties is simple, the criticism isn't even.

Criticism is even?

You have a party who's policy today, admittedly by yourself, is detrimental to your national security and your priority is to play political defense for them by juxtaposing their idiocy against the idiocy committed and learnt from more than a decade ago by others. Don't know what you are trying to achieve here.

National security and politics go hand in hand. What is that supposed to even mean?

That's a paradoxical statement. National security is not subject to anything or anyone. Anyone who is ok playing politics with it needs to reflect on their priorities.

great job murdering people in cold blood then blaming them for not supporting you. hope the same happens to you and your family members. and with all those who were involved in and support the murder of unarmed people.

btw, it is the elected representatives who decide the matters of national security. not constitution violators.

which nation and national security are you talking about? the hijacked elections? the murdered civilians? the hijacked constitution? isnt that what makes a nation? green signal has been given by the army to others to violate the law and constitution. why should others follow it when the army isnt?

where is this "national security"? people have been kidnapped and disappeared, people's videos have been leaked, people have been tortured, journalists kidnapped when they questioned the state narrative, people shot dead in islamabad and muridke, constitution violated, rule of law upended, internet restricted as we speak to suppress videos coming out of massacre that took place at murdike, the very people labelled as corrupt and thieves by the army, put back in govt, ppp leaders who kill, rape (remember ranipur?) and murder (remember the kachhay kay daku?) in their province are now presidents, MNAs and MPAs...

where is this "national security"?

Yeah. So let's allow terrorists to kill tens of thousands of more innocent Pakistanis. That'll teach em!

I could not have laid bare your cult-like subservience to a political party at the disservice to your own national security any better.

 

[falcon34]

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They are literally going to target Islamabad or Peshawar with these dumb Scud missiles.
Either the boomers like it or not war is headed their way. The Indians are going to use the afghans and I can literally tell you we won't be able to intercept these Scuds.

 

[mythbuster]

bidan, trump are just bankers puppets. The agenda has been going for many decades now, maybe centuries.

The specifics of the map are not important, but the concept behind it hasn't changed since the carving up of the Ottoman empire.

And have you noticed how separatists/terrorists plague nearly all muslim majority nations and in nearly all cases you see the anglo-american/zionist hand at play.

at a minimum they destabilise at best they balkanise. Once balkanised into smaller pieces the process repeats, destabilisation and then further balkanisation.

would not surprise me in the slightest if what's happening has their intelligence agencies organising.

Blame all your ills on Zionists , west and GHQ...... your societies are pure and innocent , even your dump smells of roses .

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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They are literally going to target Islamabad or Peshawar with these dumb Scud missiles.
Either the boomers like it or not war is headed their way. The Indians are going to use the afghans and I can literally tell you we won't be able to intercept these Scuds.

How so? We were doing a fairly good job intercepting Scuds during Gulf War 1. That was 34 years ago.

 

[falcon34]

How so? We were doing a fairly good job intercepting Scuds during Gulf War 1. That was 34 years ago.

India would love for u to try to do that, they will sniffing and watch those radar emission carefully if we tried doing it.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

India would love for u to try to do that, they will sniffing and watch those radar emission carefully if we tried doing it.

So you're changing the argument from one of "we won't be able to intercept" to one implying you won't intercept because you're afraid the Indians will see it?

That makes no sense.

Why would you be concerned with India seeing the radar emissions of your interceptor system? It's not like they would be able to defeat it anyway unless the Scuds were launched in such numbers as to overwhelm the system. Which I don't see happening either.

We're talking the Taliban here. Not Iran, who prepped for their recent conflict with Israel.

 

[iron shrapnel]

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[RescueRanger]

How so? We were doing a fairly good job intercepting Scuds during Gulf War 1. That was 34 years ago.

Its just pdf scaremongering. The sky is falling run for the hills.

Remember our convo ?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Its just pdf scaremongering. The sky is falling run for the hills.

Remember our convo ?

I just happen to be at the base of the mountain today.

 

[Aggregate]

I want to say things I feel others are not :

1) Do we have enough support from China and Russia to change the regime in Kabul to a regieme that is more open to our point of view. Does china trust us enough to not to take the US or western view here.

2)will a blockade from us force the Kabul government to work towards a serious consideration to end TTP and BLA. This also means end of BLA in iran

3) how long can we sustain this level of conflict with the afghans. Do air stokes make a difference , killing leadership only means more snakes .

4) are we Pakistan willing to talk to Iran in terms of we will end people who create issues on your side and you end the merg berg smachar folks

5) can we Pakistan , china, Russia , Iran and central Asian states like Tajikistan come together and provide a gurantee to Kabul that we will help the government in Kabul to attack all these groups like IS , TTP, BLA, eastern china block , northern alliance and the groups that create problems in Iran. Can we come up with a mechanis to work with the EIA to destroy their enemies, provide trade and acceptance if they stop this nonsense ? If so why have we failed to do this so far ?

Kv

1 : China would 100% prefer a more stable Afghanistan that stops sabotaging CPEC and is more receptive to Chinese investments. China should be better off without Taliban. Russia though has other objectives. They want an anti US/Pro India Afghanistan, which is Taliban.

2: We cannot Blockade Afghanistan, at least not for long term. Nobody in the world will tolerate it, India would turn it into a huge PR issue and even the Afghan factions that support Pakistan will turn against Pakistan

3: From what I have read, the airstrikes etc are being done to weaken or eliminate Taliban leadership, so that the Nortnern Alliance or Tajiks can overrun them and take control.

4: I think if Taliban are out, Iran will install their own factions near Iran Border, ours will have our own, through we will have to talk to Iran not to let any BLA sympathizers in.

5: Taliban are TLP and TLP are Taliban. I have read accounts of US Soldiers where after 10 years of building relations with then Afghan Govt/Taliban, they would still ambush them along with TTP in the end. So Taliban have to go out and Tajiks have to take hold. Tajiks want nothing to do with Pashtuns either, unlike Taliban who want to take over KPK due to the ethnicity. So it will bring calm to us on the Western border. Taliban also hate shias so they can neither work with Iran. Thay also hate Tajiks and Uzbiks. If Taliban govt goes, anything is possible and everyone will be better off.

 

[Cesur]

Interesting Pakistan publicly acknowledged capturing Afghan posts inside Afghan territory but back in May with India there were only rumours that Pakistani forces captured Indian posts and advanced roughly 10 km into Indian illegally occupied Kashmir. They better capture all these territories so we are in a strong position.

 

[Meengla]

Why would you be concerned with India seeing the radar emissions of your interceptor system? It's not like they would be able to defeat it anyway unless the Scuds were launched in such numbers as to overwhelm the system. Which I don't see happening either.
We're talking the Taliban here. Not Iran, who prepped for their recent conflict with Israel.

There are more eyes in the sky and above the sky then ever before and Artificial Intelligence must be learning fast about detecting movements. I hear the Americans were able to detect even that one missile fired from Russia which brought down the Malaysian (?) passenger plane during the ongoing Russia-Ukraine War. And just a few months ago, a top Indian official showed a major concern about the Chinese able to watch in real time Indian assets' movements during the May 2025 conflict between India and Pakistan.

Bordering on 'Blasphemy' to say: Some countries are nearing Omni scient, Omni Potent, Omni Present!

The only thing the Taliban have is to push a large number of poor foot soldiers into cannon's fodders against a powerful country like Pakistan which guards its hostile borders over literally several thousand miles.