Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[mythbuster]

For me Sheikh Abdullah will always be an enigma. Nehrus obsession with a strong central government was crystal clear and nothing that he even tried to hide.

Despite this Abdullah insisted that for some reason his regions desire for a federal agreement with Delhi would be respected. At best this was naivety and at worst lunacy. He placed all his eggs in Nehrus basket and ended up rotting in jail.

Both , Nehru and Abdullah were Kashmiris , they had a bond ... Nehru kept his words as long as he was alive...things started going downhill after his death and operation Gibraltar.

 

[aurelianpilled]

And then you will set up another government in Afghanistan. Which will soon turn pro India and anti Pakistan. The final objective is to have a friendly government in Afghanistan.

The taliban does not need funds to fight from India. It has more than enough sympathisers in Pakistan to raise funds. There are some one this site too.

quite sure he was talking about how we didn't go hard on the Taliban during our recent conflict and if we did, by surely using more heavy weapons, the guerilla warfare expert Taliban pretending to be a 'conventional force' will be overwhelmed and probably, who knows, we might successfully intimidate those cavemen for the time being

 

[kambhakt]

quite sure he was talking about how we didn't go hard on the Taliban during our recent conflict and if we did, by surely using more heavy weapons, the guerilla warfare expert Taliban pretending to be a 'conventional force' will be overwhelmed and probably, who knows, we might successfully intimidate those cavemen for the time being

Yes. He was. He was replying to my post about victory being based on objectives met and not a losses counting contest. So if you successfully intimidate those cavemen, you have met the objectives and won the war. If not, then the body count is not going to be a measure of success.

 

[aurelianpilled]

Yes. He was. He was replying to my post about victory being based on objectives met and not a losses counting contest. So if you successfully intimidate those cavemen, you have met the objectives and won the war. If not, then the body count is not going to be a measure of success.

bro, how is this even a 'war'?? it is way more complex than a simple 'war' tag

 

[Waz]

Why is she speaking Indian language? How much India paying them?

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No one pays attention to people like this.
The world moved in years ago.

 

[kambhakt]

bro, how is this even a 'war'?? it is way more complex than a simple 'war' tag

OK. We can change the word war to conflict or anything else. But I am assuming that Pakistan wants to win whatever it is. And the way to win it is to 'successfully intimidate those cavemen'.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Signalian @Waz @mythbuster

It seems Pakistanis here are under the impression that Kashmiri Muslims have an obligation to rebel against the Indian govt and support the terrorists. Any reasons for that belief?

Regards

 

[MapleKing]

Mujahideen were sold to the Indian Army for as little as INR.30,000 in the 2000s.

Kashmir is not homogenous. No population is. You have Hindus, Buddhists, and Muslims. Muslims can be pro-Pak, pro-independence, and a small minority pro-India. You'll always find sellouts but what matters is what the majority wants, which is separation from India. I don't know much about the 2000s era but I think Musharraf himself had abandoned mujahideen by that point under international pressure.
There was a big pro-Pak protest movement a few years back. When article-370 got revoked, they were looking to Pak for direction, for no Kashmiri movement can be sustainable without Pak's help. There were rumors circulating at the time about secret negotiations with India. Imran & co came up with the brilliant strat of doing rallies every Friday and echoing the "moral and diplomatic support" mantra. This was perceived as Pak abandoning Kashmir cause so they got demoralized and the movement fizzled out. This also set off current issues in AJK as they sensed that Pak may try to break them up and merge them with Punjab and KP as part of some grand bargain.
Whatever understanding Bajwa and Faiz had developed with India became the casualty of the feud between Imran and Army. It was never gonna work anyways. Indians want "Bharat mata" whole again. They weaponized water and also attacked Pak proper. Our elites can continue to stick their heads in the sand but Kashmir is an existential issue for Pak and barbarians are at the gates.

 

[muz]

I remember reading a book by a British Army attaché posted to India during the 1965 War who said, the Kashmiris didn't show any intent to aid the Pakistanis or stir rebellion in IOK. He alluded that Kashmiri leader Sheikh Abdullah rallied Kashmiris to fight alongside Indian forces, to the extent that he created a brigade of females and told them to stand alongside their Indian brothers and sisters.

A while back, I even read that Kashmiris were bringing meals to the militia supporting Pakistan, and those positions in the mountains and forested areas would get bombarded with artillery. Afterwards, they figured out the cause and killed those who brought meals, and the strikes didn't happen.

I do not trust the Kashmiri people in the valley. They are suffering due to their own actions and behaviors. I have to find the source, but there is a saying a senior friend of my father who passed away said that our old generation said there are three people who you can't trust, and one of them was Kashmiri from the valley in current day IOK.

The only people that had spine were from GB Gilgit Scouts pretty much liberated the entire GB on their own without any help
To this day NLI is one of the most competent and capable units in PA

 

[MapleKing]

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[Owaiz]

If this ban is enforced then this is a massive hit to the NRF, their fighters are trained in Tajikistan and also where most of their funding comes from, they lost their safe haven

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Tajikistan gets money from Russia and India. Russia has already recognised the Taliban regime and India soon will. The truth is most countries dont care who rules Afghanistan as long as the government keeps the terrorist group ( AQ/ISIS faction) targetting their country under control and the TTA has done a decent job at that for most terrorist groups other than those that target Pakistan. In fact, to get sympathy from the US and her allies, they are even claiming that Pakistani agencies are supporting ISIS factions that have a beef with the TTA.

Russia and India would have preferred to deal with the NRF, but the reality is that the TTA controls Afghanistan and no one is interested in sponsoring another expensive insurgency against them if they are willing to address their concerns -as the TTA have been for Russia and India.

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[Toxic]

Tajikistan gets money from Russia and India. Russia has already recognised the Taliban regime and India soon will. The truth is most countries dont care who rules Afghanistan as long as the government keeps the terrorist group ( AQ/ISIS faction) targetting their country under control and the TTA has done a decent job at that for most terrorist groups other than those that target Pakistan. In fact, to get sympathy from the US and her allies, they are even claiming that Pakistani agencies are supporting ISIS factions that have a beef with the TTA.

Russia and India would have preferred to deal with the NRF, but the reality is that the TTA controls Afghanistan and no one is interested in sponsoring another expensive insurgency against them if they are willing to address their concerns -as the TTA have been for Russia and India.

Taliban has been confrontional with all its neighbors and is threatening the water supply for both the central Asian republics and Iran and has had border skirmishes with Iran too people forget that At one point Iran was mobilizing to invade Afghanistan during the First taliban regime, basically everyone around the Taliban would prefer for them to be not in power, that's why Tajikistan and other CA states granted asylum to former ANA pilots and military personnel, also the influence Russia once had over the CA republics has largely diminished over the last few years so it can't force them recognize the Taliban like they once could.

Also it's apparently fake news

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[RocketLaw]

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A few weeks ago, a video of this young man went viral from Mazar-e-Quaid, where he was seen using disrespectful language against the Father of the Nation, Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah (may Allah have mercy on him). His remarks deeply hurt the sentiments of all patriotic Pakistanis.

Now, another video has surfaced, this time showing him apologizing. It seems the “software update” has turned him into a better and more responsible citizen.

As i predicted in the earlier video, he is from Wana, South waziristan district

Pakistan Zindabad!

 

[RocketLaw]

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Sure let them come again, we will attack them again every week.

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