Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Mujahideen who later became Taliban were made by three countries. USA armed them with weapons, Pakistan trained them and KSA funded them with $$$. Later on when USA abandoned the region and KSA withdrew the funding, Pakistan was left to deal with the mess, but now the lethal animal couldn't be controlled. Pakistan directed them towards IOK with little success.

If Kashmiris had any spine, or the will to fight, the insurgency in IOK would have been in full swing. Pakistan wouldn't have needed to divert fighters from other countries and backgrounds towards IOK. It was these spineless and coward Kashmiris who in August 1965 gave up positions of PA to Indians, during Ops Gibraltar. In 1999 again, Pakistani troops made gains guised as Kashmiri mujahideen, since the coward kashmiris wouldn't muster up anything worthwhile and instead of an uprising inside IOK, the kashmiris took to hiding.

The most coward muslims on this earth are Kashmiris, proven time and again since the last century.

Mujahideen were sold to the Indian Army for as little as INR.30,000 in the 2000s.
 
The international community doesn't care nor can it do anything even if it said something. This is entirely a Pakistani affair. Pakistan decides what happens on its soil. If Afghans need to be deported, that is exactly what will happen.
International community is busy planning Afghan repatriation of its own.
 
Actually India pays much lesser to TTP. The rates keep fluctuating for BLA and TTP.

I wasn't clear. The Kashmiris were selling Mujahideen locations and identities to the Indians for around INR 30,000.

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.

Its not about India or Pakistan, it's about their cowardice and treason against their own cause for 75 years.
 
I wasn't clear. The Kashmiris were selling Mujahideen locations and identities to the Indians for around INR 30,000.



Its not about India or Pakistan, it's about their cowardice and treason against their own cause for 75 years.

And they will justify their cowardice by saying both sides oppress Kashmiris Saar (refering to those in IOJK) dispite the fact that Pakistani Kashmiris are some of the most patriotic
 
And they will justify their cowardice by saying both sides oppress Kashmiris Saar (refering to those in IOJK) dispite the fact that Pakistani Kashmiris are some of the most patriotic

I don't see justifications even making into the discussion. They have been a directionless people since forever. Cowardice, limited vision, fantastical ideas, and corruption have led them into this situation. They have no love for India and many, if not most, do on paper want Pakistan, but show them a few bills here, a stick there, and some unachievable fantasies of self-governance based on ethno-nationalism and they will sell their own. The way they handled 48 will remain embarrassing for them forever.

You have to wonder why Kashmir never turned into Palestine. Pakistan had to route foreign fighters in when there are millions of Kashmiris sitting there.
 
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AJK people are Pahari pothwari belong to Punjabi ethnic group, they are not Kshmiri as Kargal and gilgit people are not Kashmir.
The irony is that brave pahari people of Jammu fought against dogra army and contributed in librating AJK but now their pahari kids think they are more Kashmiri than actual ethnic Kashur speaking people are( dar, wani, bhut, meet) and many of them start fantasising dogra jageer (jammu kashmir) to be free from state of Pakistan.

These are a minority and very often hail from families who didn't do much in the 48 wars of liberation. Their opinion matters zero.
Also you have such idiots everywhere from Sindu Desh, Loya Afghan movement, Baluch separatists etc.
 
And they will justify their cowardice by saying both sides oppress Kashmiris Saar (refering to those in IOJK) dispite the fact that Pakistani Kashmiris are some of the most patriotic

Hilarious them types, and it's a classic example of self projection of their own cowardice i.e. those who didn't fight and refused help when it came.
Utter nonsense.
Regardless of the odd protests and disputes in AJK the people and first and foremost with Pakistan, most call themselves Pakistani first.
 
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Ts are repairing AA guns, What are the chances they are trying to find old Soviet SA-2s and 3s

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I don't see justifications even making into the discussion. They have been a directionless people since forever. Cowardice, limited vision, fantastical ideas, and corruption have led them into this situation. They have no love for India and many, if not most, do on paper want Pakistan, but show them a few bills here, a stick there, and some unachievable fantasies of self-governance based on ethno-nationalism and they will sell their own. The way they handled 48 will remain embarrassing for them forever.

You have to wonder why Kashmir never turned into Palestine. Pakistan had to route foreign fighters in when there are millions of Kashmiris sitting there.
In our pahari language there is a saying for Kashmiris ( valley ones )......when Kashmiris were given guns to fight , they laid down the guns outside under the sun.... when asked what are you doing ?....tapsi tey thuss karsee was there answer.
 
I wasn't clear. The Kashmiris were selling Mujahideen locations and identities to the Indians for around INR 30,000.



Its not about India or Pakistan, it's about their cowardice and treason against their own cause for 75 years.

For me Sheikh Abdullah will always be an enigma. Nehrus obsession with a strong central government was crystal clear and nothing that he even tried to hide.

Despite this Abdullah insisted that for some reason his regions desire for a federal agreement with Delhi would be respected. At best this was naivety and at worst lunacy. He placed all his eggs in Nehrus basket and ended up rotting in jail.
 
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