Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions

[Blain2]

I'm not sure if the comparison with Iran is entirely valid.

We don't get such an early detection advantage on either side in the SA theatre, perhaps India does to a degree in its Southern & Eastern regions. And I don't think we can hope to match Israeli interception rates as that means an extremely expensive stockpile of interceptor missiles.

Remember it is not about "early detection" on account of our physical proximity only. When the Indians move out of their rear locations, and/or there is enhanced activity at their air stations, that gives us early indication that something is afoot and we can redeploy our assets. But I get your point as they may have more ready formations in place in the future.

On the interception part, Iran and Hizbollah fire thousands of missiles and rockets at Israel. That isn't the case for India and Pakistan. If things get to that stage, it will have gone nuclear because quite a few other nuclear rungs would have been crossed by then. When talking in tens and low hundreds, Pakistan must have the ability to defend against such attacks through its ADGE.

 

[Hussain]

LORA?! Wait that's a missile and they're buying it?!

https://www.iai.co.il/product/air-lora/

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Hi, the PAF should test this and optimize it for its use. They should also request licensed production. It would complement the CM400AKG.

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[Bratva]

is that due to actual missile or just mossad doing mossad things

Mossad doing Mossad things. One assumption is radars were working in peacetime mode

 

[Par 5]

I have heard that the PAF Aeromedicine Institute at Masroor Air Base has an old Hypobaric Chamber to train pilots for low oxygen situations. Are they using any newer models of Hypobaric Chamber? And where do they get their training on the G-Force handling? Turkey or China?

 

[Bratva]

@AeronautIR @side-winder @Panzerkiel Will PAF/PA aviation scale down their flying hours if Oil disruptions gets more severe or if fuel price in Pakistan reaches 500-600 Rs per liter?

 

[Fatman17]

@AeronautIR @side-winder @Panzerkiel Will PAF/PA aviation scale down their flying hours if Oil disruptions gets more severe or if fuel price in Pakistan reaches 500-600 Rs per liter?

With 21-26 days of fuels available more than likely. The Q is does the military have its own strategic reserves?

 

[Ali_Baba]

I have been thinking the same for some time. Now I am of the opinion that a version of JH7B could have been adopted by PAF 15 years ago. Our next bet is KAAN bl3 5.5 gen fighter with TF35000 engine that can fill in that void. Not sure if J35 can fill in that gap

With hindsight, we should all be grateful that PAF skipped the JH7B as it would have just drained money to keep it flying(maintenance hog). Kaan and J-35AE are the future as you say.

 

[side-winder]

@AeronautIR @side-winder @Panzerkiel Will PAF/PA aviation scale down their flying hours if Oil disruptions gets more severe or if fuel price in Pakistan reaches 500-600 Rs per liter?

Yes - i think routine training flying hours will be optimized at least.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Yes - i think routine training flying hours will be optimized at least.

Pakistan produces about 55–80 thousand barrels of crude oil per day against a consumption of nearly 480 thousand barrels per day, meaning it imports over 80% of its oil. For natural gas, Pakistan produces around 3,100–3,500 million cubic feet per day (MMCFD), while demand is closer to 6,000 MMCFD, leaving a shortfall of about 2,500 MMCFD that is met through LNG imports.

Can we make refineries on our local 55-80 thousand barrels of crude oil for our defence? jet, tanks etc incase of war? we need to make refineries producing jet fuels if not already on our local wells

 

[ghazi52]

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[Fatman17]

Pakistan does not possess true, dedicated strategic petroleum reserves (government-controlled emergency stocks). Instead, the country relies on limited commercial stocks, with storage covering roughly 10–30 days of consumption, leaving it vulnerable to supply shocks. These stocks are primarily operational inventory held by oil companies.
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Key details regarding Pakistan's fuel reserves as of March 2026:

• Current Stock Levels: Official reports indicate roughly 27 days of petrol, 21 days of diesel, and 11 days of crude oil storage.
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• Operational Constraints: These are commercial inventories rather than a secure state-run strategic buffer, making them inadequate for long-term emergencies.
• Vulnerability: Limited storage makes the country highly dependent on consistent imports, particularly facing risks from disruptions in the Middle East.
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• Requirements: Although the Federal War Book 1983 requires higher levels, the country has struggled to maintain significant long-term strategic reserves.
  

 

[AeronautIR]

@AeronautIR @side-winder @Panzerkiel Will PAF/PA aviation scale down their flying hours if Oil disruptions gets more severe or if fuel price in Pakistan reaches 500-600 Rs per liter?

Short answer, yes. Someone mentioned here that 23rd March parade and flypast has been canceled. Also, aviation fuel is different from other petroleum products. The refineries get the crude oil and then produce diesel, petrol, JP-8, kerosene etc.

 

[mythbuster]

Attack refinery refines local crude and meets our defence needs

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan does not possess true, dedicated strategic petroleum reserves (government-controlled emergency stocks). Instead, the country relies on limited commercial stocks, with storage covering roughly 10–30 days of consumption, leaving it vulnerable to supply shocks. These stocks are primarily operational inventory held by oil companies.
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Key details regarding Pakistan's fuel reserves as of March 2026:

• Current Stock Levels: Official reports indicate roughly 27 days of petrol, 21 days of diesel, and 11 days of crude oil storage.
  Facebook +2
• Operational Constraints: These are commercial inventories rather than a secure state-run strategic buffer, making them inadequate for long-term emergencies.
• Vulnerability: Limited storage makes the country highly dependent on consistent imports, particularly facing risks from disruptions in the Middle East.
  Business Recorder
• Requirements: Although the Federal War Book 1983 requires higher levels, the country has struggled to maintain significant long-term strategic reserves.

Sir discussed this in other thread we are extremely vulnerable to market shock alongside Bangladesh and South Korea.

CAA has advised intl carriers to bring extra fuel as there is shortage nationally.

Not just that - our food security is tied to fuel security and market stability. Right now we can smell the smoke, a few more days and we will all feel the heat.