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Azin said:
And why is China retarded enough to give Pakistan PL15E dose it want the world to see meteor obliterating J10s and JF17s? Is China's secret goal to shoot itself in the foot.
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No, they just want to keep an edge over the PAF, I guess - just like the US does not export the F-22.

Are you at least aware that the PLAAF has the J-10C and the PAF has the J-10CE ? If you aren't, any thing I could say would be wasted.
 
arslank01 said:
Im not confused.

Typo...

the PAF did not confirm the existence of the PL-15 on its JF-17 fleet until a few days ago... what makes you think they'd like to delve details on types?
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Sorry, you are asking the same question over and over again despite me having answered it. I have no choice but to ignore you.
 
BrigSmart said:
No, they just want to keep an edge over the PAF, I guess - just like the US does not export the F-22.

Are you at least aware that the PLAAF has the J-10C and the PAF has the J-10CE ? If you aren't, any thing I could say would be wasted.
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Idk man seems like a paradox let's end it at "we will find out" like there was a point people arguing JF17 couldn't carry any PL15s let's leave it until time tells.
 
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For those who were arguing that the JF-17 Block III is equipped with the PL-15 and not the PL-15E missile, here is a link from a Pakistani source. Please argue with the original poster on X if you are still not convinced :

Thread 'Pakistan deploys its JF-17 Block III equipped with Chinese PL-15E missiles as tensions rise with India' https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...e-missiles-as-tensions-rise-with-india.21683/
 
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BrigSmart said:
For those who were arguing that the JF-17 Block III is equipped with the PL-15 and not the PL-15E missile, here is a link from a Pakistani source. Please argue with the original poster on X if you are still not convinced :

Thread 'Pakistan deploys its JF-17 Block III equipped with Chinese PL-15E missiles as tensions rise with India' https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...e-missiles-as-tensions-rise-with-india.21683/
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The JF-17 is equipped with PL-15FAFO variant.
 
BrigSmart said:
but I had already said that the PL-15 variant that China exports is the PL-15E.
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First of all. Technically, you're right.
China does not export the PL-15, China only exports the PL-15E.
Or, let me put it another way. Any PL-15 AAM exported by China, at the time it is exported, it's type code changes to PL-15E.

Secondly. China is a developing country and is technologically “backward”. Therefore, the “performance error” of our weapons is very large. For example, the following export rocket shells, the nominal range is 290KM, but their “error” may reach 700KM. we are technologically “backward”, this is a normal phenomenon.
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Therefore, we can only ensure that the PL-15E exported to PAF has an effective strike capability at 145KM in the forward part of the flight. If it is “unfortunate” to shoot down IAF fighters at 200KM. This is due to our “technological backwardness error”. Please don't be surprised.
 
Michael said:
First of all. Technically, you're right.
China does not export the PL-15, China only exports the PL-15E.
Or, let me put it another way. Any PL-15 AAM exported by China, at the time it is exported, it's type code changes to PL-15E.

Secondly. China is a developing country and is technologically “backward”. Therefore, the “performance error” of our weapons is very large. For example, the following export rocket shells, the nominal range is 290KM, but their “error” may reach 700KM. we are technologically “backward”, this is a normal phenomenon.
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Therefore, we can only ensure that the PL-15E exported to PAF has an effective strike capability at 145KM in the forward part of the flight. If it is “unfortunate” to shoot down IAF fighters at 200KM. This is due to our “technological backwardness error”. Please don't be surprised.
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Extremely disingenuous. Ignored.
 
BrigSmart said:
Extremely disingenuous. Ignored.
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When we say that China's military technology is very advanced . Indian military fans are always mocking.
When we say China's military technology is very backward. You call us “Extremely disingenuous”.

So, what do you expect us to say?
 
BrigSmart said:
China is not even a member of MTCR, but it wants to join and has pledged to abide by the restrictions. In any case, it has a more important reason not to export the PL-15 and that is to retain it's own edge over other air forces in the region.

Anyone familiar with the details of JF-17 Block 3/ J-10CE armaments would know that the "PL-15" missile they are armed with does not have a BVR range exceeding 200km, which the PLAAF PL-15 does.
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Retired Air Comadore Khalid Chisti has known the current PAF Air Chief for 40 odd years, meets him regularly and gave an interview very recently going into great details about how the 200K+ range of the PL-15 has outsticked and neutralised the Rafale. Suggest you go watch it on YouTub. The ‘E’ infront of the misile code and perceived reduced range is just to avoid any undue alarm in certain capitals. Bet the IAF chief knows very well the real range, hence why zero chance of IAF doing jack shit in the current scenario.
 
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