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Been checking on EA 18G and F-18 E, after seeing the weapon and pod compatibility with F-16. Both F-18 and F-16 were basic planes in A/B configs and both have reached E/F stages through upgrades in past decades. Both can carry AGM-88 HARM and similar AIM series missiles.

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What i am wondering is that EA-18G carries three dignified pod types (6 in total) for its EW work.

1. ALQ-218 (2 pods) on wing tips
This receiver is the main sensor, the ears for the aeroplane. That’s the 60 odd antennas that cover the spectrum. Highly sensitive, highly capable of geolocation, and also, clearly, highly capable of identifying the different threats in the battle space. Linked with AGM-88

2.ALQ-227 gives all round communications capability. That is the system that brings the aircraft down into the communications spectrum, right down the bottom of the EM spectrum.

3.ALQ-99 (3 pods in high/low frequency bands) The main jamming pods. They enable one versus many electronic attack from stand-off or modified escort positions.

Now PAF F-16's have DRFM already as established before, an AESA is missing along with AGM-88. The rest of tech like JHMCS, Link 16 etc are present.

Reportedly PAF has ALE-47, but since we dug up a link that ALE-50 is integrated, so lets go with that. for ECM, they have ALQ-131 and ALQ-211, along with a very important ALQ-213 EW management system, which makes me think that F-16 can be configured for EW like EA-18G.

So the question is:
For the right price, can PAF acquire the above 3 mentioned EA-18G pods, or a combination if not all and configure them to be used on F-16's, creating an EA-16 B/D ?

Would that give F-16 a chance for conducting offensive EW Ops against Indian IADS and S-400 ? A chance that EA-18G holds, considering DA-20 might noT enter IAF airspace.

Wing tips replaced by ALQ-218 instead of Aim-9 missile. Gun pod removed for controlling module for ALQ-218. 3-4 x pylons for ALQ-227 and ALQ-99 pods or AGM-88 HARM.

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Signalian said:
Would that give F-16 a chance for conducting offensive EW Ops against Indian IADS and S-400 ? A chance that EA-18G holds, considering DA-20 might noT enter IAF airspace.
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I don’t see why not, the Israeli’s have done it. The F-16 CJ /DJ have self protection jammers and is specialized for SEAD/DEAD. From what I’ve read, towed decoys are very effective against Russian SAMS And can be carried by any Block 52.
 
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Signalian said:
For the right price, can PAF acquire the above 3 mentioned EA-18G pods, or a combination if not all and configure them to be used on F-16's, creating an EA-16 B/D ?
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The communication backbone on the Growler is fiber-optic, so an F/A-18 F can't easily be retrofitted for the electronic attack mission. Plus the wing and FBW is modified to support the heavy wingtip pods.
 
Keep this thread for reporting NOTAMs related to Airforce /Military /Navy / Special Ops

PARA drop activity around ORMARA between Dec 15 - Dec 17 Flight level 100 (10k ft) and below
(A0743/23 NOTAMN
Q) OPKR/QWPLW/IV/M/W/000/100/2516N06435E010
A) OPKR
B) 2312150130 C) 2312171000
D) 0130-1000
E) PARA DROPS ACTIVITY WILL BE CARRIED OUT 10NM AROUND
ORMARA (2516N 06435E) AT FL100 AND BELOW BY ACFT.
ALL ACFT TO AVOID RESERVED AIRSPACE
F) GND G) FL100)

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Somiani field to be active for Anti Aircraft operation between Dec 15 - Jan 15, 2024 at Flight Level 340 (34k ft)

A0737/23 NOTAMN
Q) OPKR/QRRCA/IV/BO/W/000/340/2511N06645E010
A) OPKR
B) 2312150200 C) 2401151300
D) 0200-1300
E) OP/R122 (ANTI AIRCRAFT RANGE ) WILL REMAIN ACT.
F) GND G) 340)
 
Khairpur firing Range to be active Nov 29 - Dec 30
(A0705/23 NOTAMN
Q) OPKR/QRRCA/IV/BO/W/000/400/2930N07225E015
A) OPKR
B) 2311290300 C) 2312091300
D) 29 NOV-09 DEC 0300-1300
E) KHAIRPUR(TAMEWALI) FIRING RANGE (OPR/126)
WILL REMAIN ACT FM GND TO FL400
F) GND G) FL400)
 
Is it okay to have these points plotted on a map and then sharing them on this forum?
 
Zephyrus said:
Is it okay to have these points plotted on a map and then sharing them on this forum?
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These are on Civil Aviation Authority website…. Nothing secret… you will notice that often they will give a date and time window for blocking off the air space but actually action date and tike are kept secret…
 
(A0748/23 NOTAMN
Q) OPKR/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2720N06710E100
A) OPKR
B) 2312210600 C) 2312221000
D) 21 22 0600-1000
E) FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE WI KARACHI FIR
NOT AVBL FM GND TO UNL DUE OPR REASONS.
ATS RTE RTE SEGMENT
======= ==============
G214/J132 PG - LUBNA
J184 KH - SK
J146 KALAT - IDEBA
B466/N636/J115 NH - KALAT
J212 NH - SK
J113 MJ - SAGIS
J181 NH - SN
J182 MJ - SN
J119 KAGNI - SK
ALTN ATS RTE
============
1) KALAT G452 MEMIX G326 NH B210 KE
R462 RAMSA AND VICE VERSA.
2) TASOP / PARTY-KE B210 NH G326 MEMIX-ZB/KALAT.
3) TASOP / RAMSA/ PARTY - KE G208 PG.
4) PG G325 KALAT G452 RK AND VICE VERSA.
5) KALAT G452 MEMIX G326 NH N893 TELEM .
6) NH DCT KAPRO DCT SK AND VICE VERSA.
F) GND G) UNL)



The affected routes mentioned in the NOTAM include:


  • G214/J132: This route originates near Karachi and heads northwest towards Nawabshah and Jacobabad.
  • J184: This route starts near Sukkur and proceeds southwest towards Khuzdar.
  • J146: This route connects Kalat with Jacobabad.
  • B466/N636/J115: This route forms a roughly north-south corridor in the western part of the Karachi FIR.
  • J212, J113, J181, J182, and J119: These routes connect various points within the affected area.
 
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