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[musaji]

Govt to sell PIA’s Precision Engineering Complex to Pakistan Air Force for Rs6.5bn

Govt to sell PIA’s Precision Engineering Complex to Pakistan Air Force for Rs6.5bn - Profit by Pakistan Today

PAF to pay Rs2.5 billion in cash, take over employee-related liabilities and pension

profit.pakistantoday.com.pk

it perplexing that government or state owned (PAF) entity can actually 'buy' another one.

 

[Yasser76]

According to article, seems like C-130 fleet is now around 24 aircraft, enough for two full Sqds

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force​

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force - RESONANT NEWS

In November 2024, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received the last three ex-Belgian C-130 aircraft, marking the end of an era for Belgium’s fleet of C-130s. The deliveries included: PAAF 067 (Serial 4455, ex CH-01): Departed on Wednesday, November 27. PAAF 068 (Serial 4470, ex CH-05): Departed on...

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[Fatman17]

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force https://resonantnews.com/2024/12/27/final-3-belgian-c-130s-delivered-to-pakistan-air-force/

 

[HRK]

According to article, seems like C-130 fleet is now around 24 aircraft, enough for two full Sqds

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force​

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force - RESONANT NEWS

In November 2024, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received the last three ex-Belgian C-130 aircraft, marking the end of an era for Belgium’s fleet of C-130s. The deliveries included: PAAF 067 (Serial 4455, ex CH-01): Departed on Wednesday, November 27. PAAF 068 (Serial 4470, ex CH-05): Departed on...

resonantnews.com

Final 3 Belgian C-130s Delivered to Pakistan Air Force https://resonantnews.com/2024/12/27/final-3-belgian-c-130s-delivered-to-pakistan-air-force/
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If I am not wrong the author of the article is Indian and an old member of PDF and also member of an Indian defense forum which I believe is also no more active.

She was not very knowledgeable on defense matter but keen observer from Indian point of view on this basis I would rate credibility of the article as 50/50 till the time some more credible source confirm this.

 

[Fatman17]

If I am not wrong the author of the article is Indian and an old member of PDF and also member of an Indian defense forum which I believe is also no more active.

She was not very knowledgeable on defense matter but keen observer from Indian point of view on this basis I would rate credibility of the article as 50/50 till the time some more credible source confirm this.

Good observation

 

[Yasser76]

If I am not wrong the author of the article is Indian and an old member of PDF and also member of an Indian defense forum which I believe is also no more active.

She was not very knowledgeable on defense matter but keen observer from Indian point of view on this basis I would rate credibility of the article as 50/50 till the time some more credible source confirm this.

Unsure what the credibility issue is, the article is simply reporting deliveires on a deal that we all know about and PAF has declared publicly

 

[HRK]

Unsure what the credibility issue is, the article is simply reporting deliveires on a deal that we all know about and PAF has declared publicly

If PAF had decleared it officially then there is nothing left to doubt, if not than there is a chance of her being wrong I mean she may have mistaken by commiting intentional double counting of the inventory

PAF acquired some C-130 we know that but quoted figures of 24 C-130 in PAF seem exaggerated in the absence of credible source, therefore would wait for some other more reliable source to report this

 

[Yasser76]

If PAF had decleared it officially then there is nothing left to doubt, if not than there is a chance of her being wrong I mean she may have mistaken by commiting intentional double counting of the inventory

PAF acquired some C-130 we know that but quoted figures of 24 C-130 in PAF seem exaggerated in the absence of credible source, therefore would wait for some other more reliable source to report this

How is the 24 number exaggerated?

PAF had around 16 C-130s in the early 2000s, (Mainly C-130B/Es), PAF put all these through an extensive avionics upgrade by Rockwell in 2017.

Belgium order was for 8 used C-130H.

There has been no C-130 loss or retirement since 2017, so 16 planes plus 8 Belgium planes = 24 aicraft no? PAF also stood up another C-130 sqd at PAF Faisal a year or so ago.

Or am I missing something here?

Rockwell to upgrade Pakistan Air Force's C-130 aircraft fleet with Flight2 avionics suite - Airforce Technology

Rockwell Collins has been selected to modernise the Pakistan Air Force's C-130E and C-130B aircraft fleet.

www.airforce-technology.com

Another ex-Belgian C-130H ready for delivery to Pakistan

Another former Belgian Air Force-operated Lockheed C-130H Hercules tactical transport has been readied for transfer to the Pakistan Air Force and was recently spotted at Melsbroek Air Base – which is co-located at Brussels Airport and home to the 15th Air Transport Wing – awaiting delivery to...

www.key.aero

 

[Hussain]

How is the 24 number exaggerated?

PAF had around 16 C-130s in the early 2000s, (Mainly C-130B/Es), PAF put all these through an extensive avionics upgrade by Rockwell in 2017.

Belgium order was for 8 used C-130H.

There has been no C-130 loss or retirement since 2017, so 16 planes plus 8 Belgium planes = 24 aicraft no? PAF also stood up another C-130 sqd at PAF Faisal a year or so ago.

Or am I missing something here?

Rockwell to upgrade Pakistan Air Force's C-130 aircraft fleet with Flight2 avionics suite - Airforce Technology

Rockwell Collins has been selected to modernise the Pakistan Air Force's C-130E and C-130B aircraft fleet.

www.airforce-technology.com

Another ex-Belgian C-130H ready for delivery to Pakistan

Another former Belgian Air Force-operated Lockheed C-130H Hercules tactical transport has been readied for transfer to the Pakistan Air Force and was recently spotted at Melsbroek Air Base – which is co-located at Brussels Airport and home to the 15th Air Transport Wing – awaiting delivery to...

www.key.aero

When this deal happened, press reported that some air-frames would be cannibalized for spares. Thats why the actual fleet number is a bit ambiguous.

 

[Yasser76]

When this deal happened, press reported that some air-frames would be cannibalized for spares. Thats why the actual fleet number is a bit ambiguous.

The article clearly states the planes will enter Pakistan Air force service and have been assigned serial numbers.

 

[Quwa]

How is the 24 number exaggerated?

PAF had around 16 C-130s in the early 2000s, (Mainly C-130B/Es), PAF put all these through an extensive avionics upgrade by Rockwell in 2017.

Belgium order was for 8 used C-130H.

There has been no C-130 loss or retirement since 2017, so 16 planes plus 8 Belgium planes = 24 aicraft no? PAF also stood up another C-130 sqd at PAF Faisal a year or so ago.

Or am I missing something here?

Rockwell to upgrade Pakistan Air Force's C-130 aircraft fleet with Flight2 avionics suite - Airforce Technology

Rockwell Collins has been selected to modernise the Pakistan Air Force's C-130E and C-130B aircraft fleet.

www.airforce-technology.com

Another ex-Belgian C-130H ready for delivery to Pakistan

Another former Belgian Air Force-operated Lockheed C-130H Hercules tactical transport has been readied for transfer to the Pakistan Air Force and was recently spotted at Melsbroek Air Base – which is co-located at Brussels Airport and home to the 15th Air Transport Wing – awaiting delivery to...

www.key.aero

IIRC the PAF had 14 C-130B/Es (upgraded to H-standard). 7 more acquired from Belgium, leading to a total fleet of 21 aircraft. But it's worth noting that Sweden is retiring 5 C-130Hs (plus a KC-130H), so those might end up with the PAF too...

 

[HRK]

Can anyone help me to find reliable online Database for aircrafts inventory, we used to search online Database (other than SIPRI) but currently forgetting the name of the website

 

[Quwa]

Can anyone help me to find reliable online Database for aircrafts inventory, we used to search online Database (other than SIPRI) but currently forgetting the name of the website

Military Database

www.scramble.nl

 

[Yasser76]

IIRC the PAF had 14 C-130B/Es (upgraded to H-standard). 7 more acquired from Belgium, leading to a total fleet of 21 aircraft. But it's worth noting that Sweden is retiring 5 C-130Hs (plus a KC-130H), so those might end up with the PAF too...

Thanks, so I guess PAF would have kept the 14 upgrades with 6 Sqd and given the 7 "new" Belgium C-130s to No 21 Sqd at Faisal?

Do we really need more C-130s?

 

[Oscar]

Thanks, so I guess PAF would have kept the 14 upgrades with 6 Sqd and given the 7 "new" Belgium C-130s to No 21 Sqd at Faisal?

Do we really need more C-130s?

The more logistics you have the better - these usually run the peacetime backbone and then more so in conflicts