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Tariq Habib Afridi said:
Allah directly qouting ACM PAF.. both are reliable. means we have shot 4 rafale? so the politician were right from the beginning
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When Indian CDS was asked if 5 planes were shot down and he said "Absolutely incorrect", that does not nessacarily imply they lost less then 5....!
 
Scorpio said:
400 fighters apx
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We have over 100 Mirages still needing replacement.

Over 50 J-7s.

Block 1 JF-17s that are nearing the end of their airframe life.

And now also the initial block F-16s.

That's going to cost a lot of money. And will probably be made of J-35s, J-10Cs, and JF-17 B3s. How long will it take, what's the target?
 
Rationalist said:
We have over 100 Mirages still needing replacement.

Over 50 J-7s.

Block 1 JF-17s that are nearing the end of their airframe life.

And now also the initial block F-16s.

That's going to cost a lot of money. And will probably be made of J-35s, J-10Cs, and JF-17 B3s. How long will it take, what's the target?
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As far as I remember pakistan new doctrine was to have 350 jets or close.
150 jf17s, 20 j10, 80 f16, by next year we will have 10 to 15 more block 3s, j35 possibility. So I think less number of replacements required. Most of mirages are retired. We dont have 100s. Same case with f7s.

Block 1s are near end lifespan but the mid life update alike will give them good time.

If you look at f16s block 10 or 15 they had same issue. Pac assembles jf17 so the airframe can be modified to change composites or add composites. Engine replacements and major components can be replaced or refreshed.
 
Psyko70 said:
As far as I remember pakistan new doctrine was to have 350 jets or close.
150 jf17s, 20 j10, 80 f16, by next year we will have 10 to 15 more block 3s, j35 possibility. So I think less number of replacements required. Most of mirages are retired. We dont have 100s. Same case with f7s.

Block 1s are near end lifespan but the mid life update alike will give them good time.

If you look at f16s block 10 or 15 they had same issue. Pac assembles jf17 so the airframe can be modified to change composites or add composites. Engine replacements and major components can be replaced or refreshed.
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Yeah, worth remembering the PGs play little of no role in our actual combat orbat. Good for rookie pilots to gain skills on an old school platform but that is it.

Take those out of the equation the actual "teeth" of PAF is all the types we used in combat recently

JF-17/J-10/F-16/Mirage

So essentially for all intents and purposes we are a 350 plane force anywa
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, worth remembering the PGs play little of no role in our actual combat orbat. Good for rookie pilots to gain skills on an old school platform but that is it.

Take those out of the equation the actual "teeth" of PAF is all the types we used in combat recently

JF-17/J-10/F-16/Mirage

So essentially for all intents and purposes we are a 350 plane force anywa
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If the Americans can be convinced to release/reimburse the blocked CSF funds, then some 2nd had 'low Block' F16s would have alot ore military value that the F7PGs would..
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, worth remembering the PGs play little of no role in our actual combat orbat. Good for rookie pilots to gain skills on an old school platform but that is it.

Take those out of the equation the actual "teeth" of PAF is all the types we used in combat recently

JF-17/J-10/F-16/Mirage

So essentially for all intents and purposes we are a 350 plane force anywa
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Yes, my point for now paf is well equipped. Im not even complaining. The complaining starts with when we have these and india has 5th gens. So for now members should relax and focus on air defense and missile technology.
 
Psyko70 said:
As far as I remember pakistan new doctrine was to have 350 jets or close.
150 jf17s, 20 j10, 80 f16, by next year we will have 10 to 15 more block 3s, j35 possibility. So I think less number of replacements required. Most of mirages are retired. We dont have 100s. Same case with f7s.

Block 1s are near end lifespan but the mid life update alike will give them good time.

If you look at f16s block 10 or 15 they had same issue. Pac assembles jf17 so the airframe can be modified to change composites or add composites. Engine replacements and major components can be replaced or refreshed.
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How many Mirages & J-7s do we actually have in service then?

150 JF-17s, 20 J-10Cs, and 80 F-16s, would make 250 planes.
 
Rationalist said:
How many Mirages & J-7s do we actually have in service then?

150 JF-17s, 20 J-10Cs, and 80 F-16s, would make 250 planes.
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Unsure, current ORBAT according to scramble,nl which is very reliable is 4 Sqds plus an OCU, however it seems as we retired some Sqds and handed them over to the current Mirage Sqds, the current Sqds maybe oversized, so around 25-30 planes each, which means it seems we may well have around 120-140 in service.
 
Rationalist said:
We have over 100 Mirages still needing replacement.

Over 50 J-7s.

Block 1 JF-17s that are nearing the end of their airframe life.

And now also the initial block F-16s.

That's going to cost a lot of money. And will probably be made of J-35s, J-10Cs, and JF-17 B3s. How long will it take, what's the target?
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PAF has no operational f 7 sqd. PAF is operating F 7 PG and some FT 7 for training/conversion.
The number of mirages is less than 100, and out of those, the rose mirages are being upgraded and will soldier on.
Block 1 all/mostly have been upgraded to block 2 standard and have plenty of life left in them, they are 4th++ gen ac and are not going anywhere for at least 5-10 years
Even the early block 15 had gone through MLU and are 4+gen ac, they too should soldier on for at least a decade, even if no further upgrades are carried out on them
 

Turkish defence minister commends PAF's role in conflict with India​


Yaşar Güler conveys Turkiye’s desire to bolster defence relations through deeper industry-to-industry collaboration

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July 09, 2025

defence minister of turkiye ya ar g ler in meeting with air chief marshal zaheer ahmed baber sidhu photo ispr


Defence Minister of Turkiye Yaşar Güler in meeting with Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu. Photo: ISPR

ISLAMABAD: Turkish Defence Minister Yaşar Güler has lauded the Pakistan Air Force's exceptional performance under the leadership of Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu in the four-day war with India, commending its operational preparedness and resolute defence of national sovereignty.

A high-level delegation led by Güler called on Air Chief Marshal Sidhu during a visit to the Air Headquarters in Islamabad on Wednesday, the military’s media wing reported.

According to the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the meeting covered discussions on evolving regional security dynamics, the progress of ongoing defence cooperation, and prospects for future collaboration in emerging domains of warfare.

During the meeting, the chief of the air staff highlighted the enduring brotherly ties between Pakistan and Turkiye, emphasising the common aspirations and strategic convergence that bind the two nations.

He reaffirmed the Pakistan Air Force's (PAF) steadfast resolve to further strengthen bilateral cooperation in the fields of advanced training and aerospace technologies.
 
Chinese PLAAF Air Chief, Defense Minister of Turkey visiting, South Africa wants training, Azerbaijan already completely with PAF, Belarus, PAF airchief visiting USA right after Munir visit.......what is happening....

@MastanKhan

Meanwhile....the french and indians......bwahahahahahaha
 
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