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[flyingorca]

We also can find video of something exploding in the pakistanese sky and some indian forumers said "this is a SAAB 2000 Erieye !"

Awwww Le Indian so invested in Indian propaganda. I thought you only worry about Rafales and Mirage2000 in India since you are French
Btw, even the Russians refused to believe Indian longest air to air kill story.

 

[kimjongun]

We also can find video of something exploding in the pakistanese sky and some indian forumers said "this is a SAAB 2000 Erieye !"

you can only find a video of a fire in a field at night nothing more....while we have a video of the rafale,m2000,mig29 and the infamous raptor of the east

 

[Oscar]

afaik 120c's dont keep datalink active that late in flight
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If you look at normal mode- the missile shuts off its datalink receiver (because 120C is one way datalink)- it doesnt carry any transmission gear afaik

Ive heard otherwise on the ping. That was one of the parameters the 2019 kill was assumed on.

 

[enigma chaudhry]

But this magazine article still didn't answer the most important question, where is Shivangi Singh

She died for her country. I am all respe tful. Indians should acknowledge it now. It is in bad taste not to accept a martyr , for ephemeral gains.

 

[kimjongun]

I never wrote anything about Mirage 2000 loss during Sindoor, because I don't know.

What is sure is that the indian M2000 are fitted with MICA, so a pic of a MICA on the ground may come from this bird, and not absolutely from a Rafale even if it is this music your government want you to hear.

the mica is also integrated with the indian rafales dumb bitch....and during the night of may 7 they iAF only had micas ,derby and pythons NOT meteor...

 

[enigma chaudhry]

The article says

7+1 confirm kill
addition 4 jets were damaged

I told this forum on 27th May that 8 rafels were destroyed or damaged. None of u believed. Now I stand vi dictated. Plz refer to my post in the 200km distance kill thread.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The biggest advantage of the Meteor missile is its range of over 200km and its relatively fast average speed. However, its disadvantage is that its guidance head is improved from the Mika missile and is already old.As stealth fighters become increasingly popular, it is difficult to play a role
The advantages of the Rafale are obvious: long range, strong mounting capacity, good ECM capability, and decent maneuverability.It's easy to be dazzled by these French boasts
But modern air combat is not fought this way. How many T/R components does the RBE2 radar have and what is its average power?Did the French emphasize that the Rafale cannot even use the two-way data link of the Meteor missile?
Has the Rafale fighter's boasted combat experience ever faced an AD of the S-300 level?The Rafale doesn't even have dedicated SEAD munitions.The SPECTAR system that Rafale has boasted about for a long time is not capable of facing the increasingly popular AESA radar. On May 7, SPECTAR did not even issue any alarm for the J10C's radar tracking.
The Rafale is just a colonial yacht. It looks gorgeous, but it is vulnerable in the face of real war.

Still, I wouldnt write off Rafale not because of PL 15 but because IAF can call in varied experience of pilots (isra**li and French pilots)

 

[Oscar]

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I am not claiming Spectra failure. Rather, I am highlighting a piece of information that was previously unrecognized. Yet you keep asserting that “the spectra has not failed”

Ad hominem projection doesn’t help and adds nothing other than giving me the clue I need.
You never understood the first post because of your unfamiliarity with the technical aspect.

You’re fixated on failure while I am talking capabilities.
You’re fixated on the term blip.

Lets agree to disagree - I don’t want to waste more time on some dick measuring argument with you.

 

[Sparten]

It does seem quite pathetic really, the indians fire large warhead missiles and the PAF fires small loitering munitions with small warheads, primarily designed for armour and soft targets.

There was a very real risk of a full on war on 10 May. PAF kept most of its best "bullets" in reserve. The Indians had no real option but to use BrahMos.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Ad hominem projection doesn’t help and adds nothing other than giving me the clue I need.
You never understood the first post because of your unfamiliarity with the technical aspect.

You’re fixated on failure while I am talking capabilities.
You’re fixated on the term blip.

Lets agree to disagree - I don’t want to waste more time on some dick measuring argument with you.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!


An engineer cannot understand when parameters and metrics break—that’s where the difference lies.


Truth cannot be interpreted solely from parameters.


I understand your viewpoint, but sorry, that does not prove I am wrong!


Because you don’t have the complete picture either—due to parametric limitations.

I did not prefer to engage in endless debate with our friend, because I realized, only way he could realize/manifest waves, was with his eyes!

observations go beyond eyes!

 

[Cipher212]

It's funny how by giving tail numbers, if the PAF is really lying they've given the Indians a fantastic opportunity to embarrass them by simply showing the BS serial rafales we're claiming. They can also shut us up by just showing Shivangi somewhere in some IAF documentary / interview

Till now they've done neither. In fact, let's go further and see if any private photographer in India ever captures any of the serial numbers we're claiming.

 

[Yasser76]

It's funny how by giving tail numbers, if the PAF is really lying they've given the Indians a fantastic opportunity to embarrass them by simply showing the BS serial rafales we're claiming. They can also shut us up by just showing Shivangi somewhere in some IAF documentary / interview

Till now they've done neither. In fact, let's go further and see if any private photographer in India ever captures any of the serial numbers we're claiming.

Got them now, hook line and sinker, none of them has a reply for this

 

[Cipher212]

Got them now, hook line and sinker, none of them has a reply for this

Exactly.

If your opponent is giving SPECIFIC serial numbers and you know they're lying, how much effort does it take to just snap the tail pic, or even just make sure those Rafales are part of the next flypast?

Indians are not short of resources to make this happen, yet they remain mum

 

[rafale]

It's funny how by giving tail numbers, if the PAF is really lying they've given the Indians a fantastic opportunity to embarrass them by simply showing the BS serial rafales we're claiming. They can also shut us up by just showing Shivangi somewhere in some IAF documentary / interview

Till now they've done neither. In fact, let's go further and see if any private photographer in India ever captures any of the serial numbers we're claiming.

Those F***ers will simply repaint their other Rafales.....real challenge to them is to line up ALL the rafales.....even the ones undergoing repair

 

[side-winder]

Those F***ers will simply repaint their other Rafales.....real challenge to them is to line up ALL the rafales.....even the ones undergoing repair

Even if they do the manipulation with serial numbers - The question is - does Dassault has its technical support team at IAF bases - like we have for the J10s and F16s.

If they do - ofcourse they know about the exact numbers.

But will Dassault play the ball all along to save their exports?