Pakistan Army buying Embraer Lineage 1000 Business Jet?

[Par 5]

I am reading the GoP notification which clearly mentions that it is for "Defense Services". Second, in all likelihood it is a second-hand unit, thus the initial amount may just be an installment.

Also, as many other posters are suggesting, this aircraft does not fit the profile of aircraft in Pakistan Army Aviation, but it does for the Pakistan Navy. Just trying to connect the dots logically.

"Currently Pakistan has inducted 2 new Sea Sultan Maritime Patrol Aircraft for Anti Submarine warfare, Anti-surface warfare (ASuW). Search and Rescue. Maritime Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR). Targeting support for naval assets.

Pakistan has used Embraer Lineage 1000E and purchased existing mission systems, radar and sensors, weapons integration from Leonardo and developed a mature MPA. Technology wise it is very similar to Saab Swordfish. This Will give Pakistan an edge in submarine hunting missions and keep Indian Navy off bay in case India ever decides to blockade them. Pakistan is working towards configuring the Sea Sultan with homegrown weapon systems. For example, the Pakistani defence industry recently revealed the Rasoob 250 ALCM and Eghraaq lightweight torpedo (LWT).
Total 8 planes are on order with 2 delivered, which will be replacing P-3C Orion and complement RAS-72 MPA."

I think we are at 3 delivered but that still leaves 5 more units, if not more, on the table to be acquired.

https://www.dawn.com/news/2042201. PN budget approval is seperate in the ECC report

The second summary approved Rs1.094bn for the induction of a luxury executive jet (Lineage L-1000 aircraft) into the army fleet, while the third allocated Rs29.139bn for Project Istaqlal. “The approvals are aimed at meeting essential operational requirements and supporting national security priorities,” the official statement said.

 

[Blain2]

https://www.dawn.com/news/2042201. PN budget approval is seperate in the ECC report

You are quoting a non-official newspaper while I am quoting the official GoP notification.

Leaving the half-ass reporting aside, the logic of where such a platform fits is with the Navy for reasons shared above.
I could be wrong but seems unlikely that the PA would go for a massive aircraft like this.

Second, you may or may not know, after the Zia-ul-Haq, ACM Mushaf Mir mishaps, none of the services use large aircraft for VVIP movement because of the implications for national security. So having a 20-seat executive jet makes little sense. The PAA and PAF fleet already have enough smaller fast executive jets for ferrying their respective leadership.

 

[ThunderCat]

Why can't they buy a second hand plane? Or buy a second hand ATR and hire PIA pilots to fly it part time?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Maybe will be turned into an ASELSAN/TAI SOJ....

 

[Par 5]

Why can't they buy a second hand plane? Or buy a second hand ATR and hire PIA pilots to fly it part time.

Army has recently tendered for an ATR 500-72 on FOB basis for that particular requirement

 

[ThunderCat]

Army has recently tendered for an ATR 500-72 on FOB basis for that particular requirement

let's hope so

 

[Blain2]

Why can't they buy a second hand plane? Or buy a second hand ATR and hire PIA pilots to fly it part time?

This is in all likelihood a second-hand aircraft. All 3 of the Sea Sultans are refurbished aircraft so this could be the fourth.

 

[Dreamer]

so what is this project istaqlal? is it also for navy?

 

[Trailer23]

What? You don't think Field Marshal, Chief of Defence Forces, Chief of the Army Staff, Nishan-e-Imtiaz, Hilal-e-Jurat, Hilal-e-Imtiaz, Hafiz-e-Quran, Salahuddin Ayyubi of the Modern Era Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah doesn't deserve this?

As if, his and hers matching G5 and G6 for Munira and his nani wasn't enough of a PR disaster, what could this petty small indulgence possibly engender the former indulgence couldn't muster...This is North Korea lite, nobody questions the supreme leader.

Calm the f#*k down...

The Pakistan Navy is already operating the Embraer Lineage 1000 for the Sea Sultan and this is addition to the fleet of 10 that were ordered - to replace the P-3 Orion.

To my knowledge, we have 2 (so far). J-760 is the only Tail Number i've been able to find on the .net (so far).

There is no use for it for the Army or the Air Force.

I get it that some of you PTI-fanboys have an issue with Asim Munir, but please try to release your frustration where its required.

Either way..., people outta move on. Its for the Navy.

@RescueRanger @Musings

 

[Blain2]

so what is this project istaqlal? is it also for navy?

Istaqlal from OSI seems to be a tri-services modernization program and there isn't a whole lot more known of details given its classified nature.

 

[Blain2]

Mods/OP, given the heartburn to some, please change the heading of this thread. The original source linked (https://pid.gov.pk/site/press_detail/34658) clearly states that this acquisition is for "defense services" and not specifically the Pakistan Army.

Many members have provided insights that the likely recipient of this acquisition is the Pakistan Navy. So this thread should either be moved to a generic Security thread or to the Pakistan Navy one.

 

[Musings]

Mods/OP, given the heartburn to some, please change the heading of this thread. The original source linked (https://pid.gov.pk/site/press_detail/34658) clearly states that this acquisition is for "defense services" and not specifically the Pakistan Army.

Many members have provided insights that the likely recipient of this acquisition is the Pakistan Navy. So this thread should either be moved to a generic Security thread or to the Pakistan Navy one.

Changing the title and launching a thread is unacceptable. Thread closed bro