Pakistan Army Small Arms

[RescueRanger]

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G3 platform is dated, we need a better solution. Same with mp5, there is a reason it has been replaced by most CT units and only given to ports security as mp5 lacks stopping power compared to UMP.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Weren't we evaluating Norinco weapons at some point too? Correct me if I'm wrong on this..

The original tender didn't have any Chinese rifle.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

G3 platform is dated, we need a better solution. Same with mp5, there is a reason it has been replaced by most CT units and only given to ports security as mp5 lacks stopping power compared to UMP.

However , I've seen a few troops with Chinese rifles who were on protection duties.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

QLU-11 Sniper howitzers. Export version code LG-5

I wonder if the brothers in Pakistan are equipped with this thing...............

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Don't think so, however qlz87s were once used

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yet on the other hand on official level we have confirmation of Navy, Marines and Frontier Constabulary for CW39
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What I heard about the AK103 was that Russia (in this case Kalashnikov) was alright with local production but averse to exporting it under POF brand (needed to offset costs) which led to the deal failure.
Also this wasn't the only Turkish rifle shown under POF banner
Pakistan Official Small Arms Discussion
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They are working on the turkish machine gun..mfr56




Also confirmed by POFs Salman Ali.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

G3 platform is dated, we need a better solution. Same with mp5, there is a reason it has been replaced by most CT units and only given to ports security as mp5 lacks stopping power compared to UMP.

Should just scrap the bw20 bs.. and just select the k786 and be done with all this futile exercise.

 

[SteppeWolff]

mp5 lacks stopping power compared to UMP

Doesn't the UMP comes chambered in 9mm too?

 

[RescueRanger]

Doesn't the UMP comes chambered in 9mm too?

.45 ACP

 

[StormOfTruth]

They are working on the turkish machine gun..mfr56

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Also confirmed by POFs Salman Ali.

To me the rifle R56 seems to be a rifle conversion of the MFR 56

 

[StormOfTruth]

Should just scrap the bw20 bs.. and just select the k786 and be done with all this futile exercise.

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In my opinion aside from the benefits of the BW20 (familiarity, industrial costs) I think the BW20 is essentially a gateway for the widespread induction of the BW21 (kind of like how the Type 81 was a transition rifle between the Type 56 and QBZ 95)

 

[farooqbhai]

Should just scrap the bw20 bs.. and just select the k786 and be done with all this futile exercise.

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GIDS KLASS 786 will eventually be inducted in large numbers, the setup behind KLASS 786 has only recently ventured into small arms market so they are still working towards improving the finished product. For now limited numbers be given to PA from first batch but once the rifle fully ready it will get orders.

 

[farooqbhai]

Weren't we evaluating Norinco weapons at some point too? Correct me if I'm wrong on this..

FC has gotten Chinese snipers lately with Clip on Thermals part of package.

 

[Zarvan]

G3 platform is dated, we need a better solution. Same with mp5, there is a reason it has been replaced by most CT units and only given to ports security as mp5 lacks stopping power compared to UMP.

Sir what is the latest platform. BW 20 I doubt. We test SCAR, BREN, AK 103 and other Rifles got no deal. I also hate G3 but what on earth are our options. @panzerfaust 3 @Panzerkiel

 

[panzerfaust 3]

Sir what is the latest platform. BW 20 I doubt. We test SCAR, BREN, AK 103 and other Rifles got no deal. I also hate G3 but what on earth are our options. @panzerfaust 3 @Panzerkiel

The best solution would be to get an AK type rifle , it's like you posted in a thread where you claimed that AK 103 will be the solution to India's dilemma
So I think a modern AK type rifle will be the solution for PA ,since both indian and Pakistani troops are well acquainted and already have different Kalashnikov pattern rifles in arsenal

(The best option would be to get CZ BREN !)


However the most rational approach would be to get a AK 103 ,but since we already got AK 203 so that rules out the possibility of PA acquiring 103

 

[Zarvan]

The best solution would be to get an AK type rifle , it's like you posted in a thread where you claimed that AK 103 will be the solution to India's dilemma
So I think a modern AK type rifle will be the solution for PA ,since both indian and Pakistani troops are well acquainted and already have different Kalashnikov pattern rifles in arsenal

(The best option would be to get CZ BREN !)


However the most rational approach would be to get a AK 103 ,but since we already got AK 203 so that rules out the possibility of PA acquiring 103

AK type rifle can replace Type 56, but we also need to replace G3.