Pakistan Asking Afghans to Accept Durand line is Wrong as per the head of Tehreek e Tahaffuz e Ayeen

[Meengla]

Establishment is to be blamed for a lot of things but it can't be blamed for a party choosing to be anti-Pakistan. How does persecution of a political party forces it to become anti-state and aligns with people who don't even recognize your territorial borders? Doesn't that defeats the purpose of the political fight for upholding the Constitution and integrity of the country?

As far as I know, Imran is in prison due to his crimes which are numerous and which his followers deny and present him as some most honest person with democratic credentials. No he is not. Pakistanis are too lenient otherwise the day he threw out the NCM vote was enough to put him in the prison for violating the Const of Pakistan but instead a full year was allowed to the scoundrel build his 'narrative'. It was an open-and-shut case.
But coming to the anti-state part: Benazir's father was hanged by now widely agreed as a 'judicial murder' and yet she still didn't become anti-state and this scoundrel Imran thinks he has the right to ethnic blackmail because he is imprisoned? His prison conditions are still far better then what Zia did to Benazir!

 

[unconventional]

As far as I know, Imran is in prison due to his crimes which are numerous and which his followers deny and present him as some most honest person with democratic credentials. No he is not. Pakistanis are too lenient otherwise the day he threw out the NCM vote was enough to put him in the prison for violating the Const of Pakistan but instead a full year was allowed to the scoundrel build his 'narrative'. It was an open-and-shut case.
But coming to the anti-state part: Benazir's father was hanged by now widely agreed as a 'judicial murder' and yet she still didn't become anti-state and this scoundrel Imran thinks he has the right to ethnic blackmail because he is imprisoned? His prison conditions are still far better then what Zia did to Benazir!

Benazir was highly corrupt, not sure if she was anti state or not. But a better example of someone who was badly treated, but never became anti state was Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan.

For IK and his fanboys, IK and his ego is much important than the state of Pakistan, which is shocking

 

[Meengla]

First of all PTI is not anti state. Period. While Achak Zai stand on democracy is 100% correct but his views on Durrand line and Afghanistan is against Pakistan's soverignity.

Bolded part: And Imran could only find Achakzai to occupy the post of the Leader of the Opposition? I am sure there are decent, patriotic people in PTI. But Imran is playing a dangerous game of ethnic blackmail and for that Mr. Achakzai is perfect candidate. When will you guys stop making excuses for this deranged Dear Leader??

 

[Mujhe-Kyun-Tora]

In ******* ko hum ne khud pala ha .

 

[unconventional]

One can criticize the political repression by the military, one can criticize their corruption and sometimes failed tactics in countering terrorism, especially in Balochistan.

But one cannot side with Afghans/Taliban over the military, the Afghans not accepted Pakistan’s territorial integrity since 1947 and wanting to break up Pakistan

 

[Blain2]

The clueless in KP and their OIC resolution like jirgas yield nothing. See this: https://www.dawn.com/news/1954653

How tone-deaf can they be? Some of the demands of the jirga are as follows:

- Hold talks with Afghanistan. That we have done this innumerable times is lost on them and each time the outcome has been worse than the time before. Not saying talks should be abandoned but this has been a one-way street.
- Peace in Pakistan cannot happen unless there is peace in Afghanistan. Last I checked, there has been peace in Afghanistan. No bombings, no suicide attacks, no attacks on military camps, on schools, on courts etc. etc. All of the violence is happening in Pakistan as such there must be some special kind of hashish being smoked at the jirga and in the KP government.
- Open all trade routes to Afghanistan. What safety and security does Pakistan get from such a move? Jirga has no clue.
- One former CM quipped rhetorically, what good did the past Jirgas result in? Answer: Crickets chirping.

The reality is that KP has no clue how to manage this conflict that is being waged on Pakistan from outside of Pakistan. I wish there was better alignment between the centre and the province and the NAP gets implemented fully.

 

[Salza]

PTM is long gone/history, question is about the present/today, what is the PTI/IK doing today?

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[Master Chief]

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Politicians are obligated to adhere to the values of the Pakistani state. They are not civvies who can exercise their own discretion.

The members of this movement are simply not evolved enough, from a biological and cranial capacity perspective, to understand the machinations of political discourse, civic responsibility, and baseline intelligent human behaviour.

Return them to the zoo as soon as possible. The experiment has failed.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

People who support IK / PTI care. People who voted for him in 2024 but got their mandate stolen by military establishment care.

IK is not angel/savior or MASSSIEH to the country as you guys think, He came with the help of your Punjabi establishment and your Punjabi establishment discarded him because of his stupid policies and becoming threat to national security

 

[Oscar]

Start thread banning them like you did to me when I called out Sunni's kissing Israel's behind

Because you brought in sectarianism.
You could have said GCC and Pakistan or otherwise it would still be ok - but since all you can see is sects you will be thread banned for bringing it in.

 

[Distant_Observer]

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These are not Pakistanis. They are Afghan settlers.

 

[Forsvaret]

But it is very odd for me to see that in the face of huge threats/deaths of our soldiers from Afghanistan, Imran Khan and the PTI has not once spoken in favor of our martyrs/Pakistan/Pakistan’s territorial integrity…

Actually, he has! All you gotta do read is Imran Khan’s tweet on the matter:

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[Forsvaret]

Dr A.Q.Khan was also treated badly by the Musharraf government, scapegoated for nuclear proliferation and put under house arrest, but never did he speak out against Pakistan.

And exactly where did Imran Khan speak a word against Pakistan?

 

[Forsvaret]

But in the same body of the post, it seems you are trying to justify their anti-state behavior. There is NO excuse for their anti Pakistan behavior…

Imran Khan himself has already answered this BS from the military establishment:

The very first question they put to me was why my Twitter account carries what they call “anti-state” content. I responded by reminding them that I am a former Prime Minister and I represent eighty percent population of Pakistani. I will speak on every issue that is in the interests of my people. I have every right to raise my voice for them. No power can strip me of this right, nor can anyone silence my voice on matters that concern the interests of my country and my people.

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[Distant_Observer]

Actually, he has! All you gotta do read is Imran Khan’s tweet on the matter:

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He negotiated a temporary ceasefire which allowed talib proxies to regroup and rearm.

He still doesn't get it and his racial allegiances to afghan pashtun warlords shows.

This proves democracy is worthless in Pakistan, it produces clowns like these.