Pakistan Closes Airspace to Taiwanese Airlines in Support of China

[ChineseTiger1986]

A side note:

Within the current Kuomintang (KMT), there are effectively three factions:

1. The pro-PRC faction (often referred to as the "pro-unification" faction): This group supports the position that Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China (PRC) and aligns with the stance of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). It is a relatively small circle.

2. The "ROC-realist" faction: This group acknowledges the "One China" principle but maintains that the Republic of China (ROC)—not the PRC—is the legitimate entity. They support engagement and negotiation between the KMT and the PRC, while opposing the Democratic Progressive Party’s (DPP) stance on Taiwanese independence. This is currently the largest faction within the KMT.

3. The "hardline ROC" faction: This group insists that the ROC is the sole legitimate representative of "China." This, too, is a relatively small circle.

The first faction opposes Taiwan relying on American influence, whereas the second and third factions both support leveraging that influence.

Given the current state of the KMT, no leader within the party would dare to openly support the PRC while opposing the United States. Conversely, no KMT leader would dare to openly oppose the PRC either. Such is the reality.

Most ROC-realists are just the evolved faction of the hardliners, because they have realized that is is impossible for them to become the ruling party in China again, so they are either pandering to the DPP or using the strategic ambiguity for more bargaining chips.

My family came from the KMT, I know too much about them.

 

[Panda_Hi]

A side note:

Within the current Kuomintang (KMT), there are effectively three factions:

1. The pro-PRC faction (often referred to as the "pro-unification" faction): This group supports the position that Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China (PRC) and aligns with the stance of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). It is a relatively small circle.

2. The "ROC-realist" faction: This group acknowledges the "One China" principle but maintains that the Republic of China (ROC)—not the PRC—is the legitimate entity. They support engagement and negotiation between the KMT and the PRC, while opposing the Democratic Progressive Party’s (DPP) stance on Taiwanese independence. This is currently the largest faction within the KMT.

3. The "hardline ROC" faction: This group insists that the ROC is the sole legitimate representative of "China." This, too, is a relatively small circle.

The first faction opposes Taiwan relying on American influence, whereas the second and third factions both support leveraging that influence.

Given the current state of the KMT, no leader within the party would dare to openly support the PRC while opposing the United States. Conversely, no KMT leader would dare to openly oppose the PRC either. Such is the reality.

Yes, that’s basically how things are, as you described.

The US still has significant influence over Taiwan, and if the KMT wants to win any election, it must maintain a certain degree of distance from the PRC....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes, that’s basically how things are, as you described.

The US still has significant influence over Taiwan, and if the KMT wants to win any election, it must maintain a certain degree of distance from the PRC....

Are you descended from the Jiangzhe (江浙财阀) domestic faction of Chiang Kai-shek, or just native Fujianese in Taiwan who join the KMT?

Since I was born in Shanghai, my ancestry was quite close to Chiang Kai-shek and the people from his inner circle.

 

[Panda_Hi]

Are you descended from the Jiangzhe (江浙财阀) domestic faction of Chiang Kai-shek, or just native Fujianese in Taiwan who join the KMT?

Since I was born in Shanghai, my ancestry was quite close to Chiang Kai-shek and the people from his inner circle.

My ancestral home is Sichuan (四川), and my elders came to Taiwan with the Nationalist Government in 1949.

 

[Michael]

The US still has significant influence over Taiwan, and if the KMT wants to win any election, it must maintain a certain degree of distance from the PRC....

In online discussions among netizens in mainland China, the vast majority do not, in fact, support the KMT being in power.

A more widely held view is that the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) should remain in power, while being tacitly encouraged to continue pushing Taiwan toward the "red line" of formal independence—until they finally cross it. At that point, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) would have a just and legitimate basis to initiate the "liberation" of Taiwan by force.

The Chinese government favors a resolution through negotiation, whereas the Chinese public leans toward a resolution by force.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

My ancestral home is Sichuan (四川), and my elders came to Taiwan with the Nationalist Government in 1949.

Yep, I have met some Taiwanese (外省人) which include my distant relatives in Taiwan once.

But I refrained to talk any CCP-KMT rivalry to them, even they wouldn't talk too much about it either, but it would definitely pour salt into their wound.

At least, nearly all of them acknowledged that they are still Chinese and China is their motherland.

 

[Michael]

My ancestral home is Sichuan (四川), and my elders came to Taiwan with the Nationalist Government in 1949.

Perhaps there is some kinship between us. LOL

My father’s biological father was a high-ranking KMT general whose identity remains classified to this day—it is still not permitted to be disclosed. He was a native of Sichuan.

My father’s adoptive father, on the other hand, was a veteran member of the CCP.

 

[Panda_Hi]

In online discussions among netizens in mainland China, the vast majority do not, in fact, support the KMT being in power.

A more widely held view is that the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) should remain in power, while being tacitly encouraged to continue pushing Taiwan toward the "red line" of formal independence—until they finally cross it. At that point, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) would have a just and legitimate basis to initiate the "liberation" of Taiwan by force.

The Chinese government favors a resolution through negotiation, whereas the Chinese public leans toward a resolution by force.

Haha, I know.

It’s just like many netizens in mainland China wanting Japan to be governed by the right-wing Sanae Takaichi.

The more extreme the Japanese government, the greater the chance of conflict, giving China an opportunity to wipe Japan off the map....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Perhaps there is some kinship between us. LOL

My father’s biological father was a high-ranking KMT general whose identity remains classified to this day—it is still not permitted to be disclosed. He was a native of Sichuan.

My father’s adoptive father, on the other hand, was a veteran member of the CCP.

Sichuan got many KMT warlords (non-Chiang faction) to follow Chiang to flee to Taiwan.

They initially didn't belong to Chiang's domestic faction, but after the WWII, Chiang managed to consolidate his power by confiscating the military command of most warlords, because he was deciding to fight CCP in a final battle for the civil war.

But they lost badly after 4 years of civil war, and the families of those warlords had all followed him to Taiwan.

 

[Yasser76]

It looks like they have not rescended the ban but just delayed till March 2027?

 

[Panda_Hi]

Perhaps there is some kinship between us. LOL

My father’s biological father was a high-ranking KMT general whose identity remains classified to this day—it is still not permitted to be disclosed. He was a native of Sichuan.

My father’s adoptive father, on the other hand, was a veteran member of the CCP.

What a coincidence! We're both from Sichuan.

I'm from Hejiang (合江), Sichuan. Nice to meet you, fellow Sichuanese (老鄉你好)!...

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Alright, since we're fellow Sichuanese, let me offer a bit of unsolicited advice (讓我多嘴一下 ).

Our Pakistani friend has complained about your tone, so please try to tone it down a little in the future......

 

[ety]

I agree with most of your views, and let me offer a few brief clarifications...▼▼▼

Given the historical grievances between the KMT and the CCP, I can understand why friends in Mainland China hold a negative view of the KMT.

However, the vast majority of what Taiwan has achieved today was built on the foundation laid during the KMT’s rule.

This includes major infrastructure projects that helped Taiwan’s economy take off, the semiconductor industry that developed later, and the National Health Insurance system, among other things.

I do not expect friends in Mainland China to reverse their negative impression of the KMT, but when comparing the KMT and the DPP, the KMT’s achievements in governance are far superior to those of the DPP.

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Today, the KMT is actually facing a dilemma in many ways. If the KMT wants to unseat the DPP, it must win more votes, which requires the support of centrist voters.

Therefore, the KMT cannot appear too pro-China, as that would drive away centrist voters. As a result, the KMT often finds its hands tied and is unable to take a clear stance on many issues.

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Anyway, the outcome of the CCP-KMT rivalry is already clear. I just hope that, as time goes by, the two sides across the Taiwan Strait can achieve peaceful reunification...

The problem is Taiwan's ecosystem from politics to media to military is pretty much controlled by the US. Government of Taiwan is just a puppet. The DPP is also very pro-Japan and KMT to a lesser extent. For peaceful reunification to happen, Taiwan has to get rid of the overwhelming US and Japan influences.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It looks like they have not rescended the ban but just delayed till March 2027?

The Taiwanese are already panicking as China might start some special operation against them.

 

[Michael]

What a coincidence! We're both from Sichuan.

I'm from Hejiang (合江), Sichuan. Nice to meet you, fellow Sichuanese (老鄉你好)!...

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Alright, since we're fellow Sichuanese, let me offer a bit of unsolicited advice (讓我多嘴一下 ).

Our Pakistani friend has complained about your tone, so please try to tone it down a little in the future......

I’m used to it—I can’t change!

I’m from Mianyang, Sichuan!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The problem is Taiwan's ecosystem from politics to media to military is pretty much controlled by the US. Government of Taiwan is just a puppet. The DPP is also very pro-Japan and KMT to a lesser extent. For peaceful reunification to happen, Taiwan has to to get rid of the overwhelming US and Japan influences.

Both DPP and Takaichi are planning to drag the US into the war against China, but the US wants to push these two as its useful cannon fodders.

So they are pushing against each other.