Pakistan Engine Development

[MMM-E]

That’s not GHATAK

That s GHATAK ..

India could not develop even turboprob engine powered UAV

Full of failed projects like ROUSTAM-II UAV , KAVERİ Engine and many more

 

[Michael]

There are 206 Countries in the World
But except USA , Russia , China , The UK and France , Nobody can mock Turkiye

And Turkiye joins the big club in aviation Industry

Thanks to Turkish Military Projects which are real and flying

-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet
-- HURJET next gen trainer Jet and light attack Fighter Jet
-- HURKUS trainer Aircraft
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- ANKA-3 flying wing stealth UCAV
-- TB-2/3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs
-- T-129 and T-929 Attack Helicopters
-- T-625 Utility Helicopter

Also Turkiye develops turboshaft and turbofan Engines to power indigenous aviation projects from Helicopters to Fighter Jets

India is not in a position to compare with Turkiye in aviation Industry

Some misunderstandings due to different language environments. I don't speak English, much less can I speak using English logic. I use machine translation to communicate on PDF.

The premise of my statement is not to refer to all countries in the world, but to those countries that have a fighter aircraft industry.

I know the world has hundreds of countries, but the number of countries that have a fighter jet industry is a very small number. In this context, Turkey is really not considered a fighter aircraft industry powerhouse.
But in the context of the world, having its own fighter industry is already very strong.

 

[MMM-E]

In this context, Turkey is really not considered a fighter aircraft industry powerhouse.

Not yet
but until 2030 Turkiye will become a Fighter Jet industry powerhouse including manned and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like KAAN , HURJET , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 to operate together for future tactical air combat concept

KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 projects are real and flying
also TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines are under development


Only USA , Turkiye , France-The UK , China and Russia in the world

Pakistan can work with Turkiye and China to get all these technologies

 

[Magadh]

That s GHATAK ..

India could not develop even turboprob engine powered UAV

Full of failed projects like ROUSTAM-II UAV , KAVERİ Engine and many more

That’s SWIFT not GHATAK

 

[Magadh]

Not yet
but until 2030 Turkiye will become a Fighter Jet industry powerhouse including manned and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like KAAN , HURJET , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 to operate together for future tactical air combat concept

KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 projects are real and flying
also TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines are under development
View attachment 64356

Only USA , Turkiye , France-The UK , China and Russia in the world

Pakistan can work with Turkiye and China to get all these technologies

Oh, of course! Turkey, which needs Pakistan’s help to develop fighter jets, is being compared to India's aviation industry? That’s like comparing a bicycle to a sports car and claiming they’re in the same league.

 

[MMM-E]

That’s SWIFT not GHATAK

GHATAK or SWIFT are same project

DRDO Ghatak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Magadh]

GHATAK or SWIFT are same project

DRDO Ghatak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

SWIFT is 15 times smaller than GHATAK

 

[MMM-E]

Oh, of course! Turkey, which needs Pakistan’s help to develop fighter jets, is being compared to India's aviation industry? That’s like comparing a bicycle to a sports car and claiming they’re in the same league.

There is zero Pakistani technology in Turkish Aviation projects like KAAN , HURJET , HURKUS , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 , TB-3 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI , T-129 , T-929 , T-625 , etc

stop believing silly youtube videos

And India has only TEJAS Fighter Jet now .. nothing else
India could not develop even TEJAS MK-II for the first flight

 

[MMM-E]

SWIFT is 15 times smaller than GHATAK

Then where is so mighty GHATAK ?

or a paper project like AMCA ?

 

[Michael]

Not yet
but until 2030 Turkiye will become a Fighter Jet industry powerhouse including manned and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like KAAN , HURJET , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 to operate together for future tactical air combat concept

KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 projects are real and flying
also TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines are under development
View attachment 64356

Only USA , Turkiye , France-The UK , China and Russia in the world

Pakistan can work with Turkiye and China to get all these technologies

The British fighter industry. It can be fully considered a part of the United States and cannot be viewed in isolation.

Russia fighter industry. Russia fighter industry is severely constrained due to its severe backwardness in IT technology. However, Russia remains strong in traditional areas such as industrial design and basic materials science.

France fighter industry. France has always been advanced in this area. But it has too many constraints. These factors can interfere with its development.

China fighter industry. China has been developing very rapidly in recent years. China, unlike other countries, has to solve almost all of its own problems in the fighter industry. Russia, the only teacher of China fighter industry, has been overtaken by China. In the future China can only rely on itself in this field.

US fighter industry. There is no doubt that the U.S. fighter industry is still number one in the world. Although China is trying to catch up.

Turkey has made a lot of achievements in the field of fighter industry in recent years. In the future, Turkey can continue to invest more research efforts in the field of cutting-edge technology.
However, Turkey needs to do more research in basic fields.
Currently, Turkey has a lot of cooperation with other advanced countries in the fighter industry. Sometime in the future, when these countries feel threatened by Turkey, they will discontinue certain key co-operation projects. If preparations are not made in advance through basic research, these critical projects could cause catastrophic losses for the entire fighter industry.
Huawei, is a typical example.

 

[Magadh]

"It will be comparable in size to the B-52 bomber of USA."

So you will be building an unmanned B-52, before the US even has a manned replacement for the B-52? and you expect people to believe this?

Btw I think you might be getting the 1:10 thing wrong. I think The initial 1:10 prototype was this little RC plane that they flew in 2022.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/1/17/DRDO_SWiFT.webm/DRDO_SWiFT.webm.720p.vp9.webm

This picture is of SWIFT not GHATAK, GHATAK is 15 times bigger than SWIFT

SWiFT & Ghatak UCAV program

Stealth Wing Flying Test-bed (SWiFT) As per DRDO, Stealth Wing Flying Test-bed (SWiFT) is an indigenously developed system with an objective of bridging the technology gaps towards design and devel…

indiandefenseanalysis.wordpress.com

 

[Magadh]

Then where is so mighty GHATAK ? in your dreams ?

or a paper project like AMCA ?

I'm not denying that GHATAK is yet to reach prototype phase, but let's not forget that the Kaveri engine has been in the prototype phase for the last 25 years. And the engine that will eventually power the 15-ton GHATAK? It's just a dry variant of that same Kaveri engine.

 

[Musings]

@MMM-E

Look at the title of this thread and look at your obsession. Stick to the actual topic and keep Turkish achievements out of this thread - thanks....

 

[BP2]

India could not develop even TEJAS MK-II for the first flight

It will fly in the coming years, for sure.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey has made a lot of achievements in the field of fighter industry in recent years. In the future, Turkey can continue to invest more research efforts in the field of cutting-edge technology.

The future is manned and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets and Turkiye becomes one of 6 Countries in this field

All 4.5 gen Fighters such as F-15E , F-16V , SU-35 , J-10C , RAFALE will be easy target for stealth Fighter Jets in BVR combat

Countries in the world that have their own stealth Fighter Jets will not need anyone else for this technology and this will be the monopoly of a few countries in the world like USA , Turkiye , China , France , Russia and The UK ..... S.Korea also on the way

India has some projects but still on paper

Currently, Turkey has a lot of cooperation with other advanced countries in the fighter industry. Sometime in the future, when these countries feel threatened by Turkey, they will discontinue certain key co-operation projects

Now only Engine is coming from foreing Countries ( USA and Ukraine )


but Turkiye will not be dependent on anyone
because Turkish manned and unmanned Fighter Jets will be full of indigenous when TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines enter service

sooner or later foreign dependency will end and who will get what position will not affect the production capacity of the Turkish defense industry.

This was my last post on this thread
İf you Chinese and Indian guys want to discuss about Turkish Defense Industry, then visit the Turkish section