Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

dont worry and dont argue over pointless things....

there are enough jet engines and wreckages lying around already!
Raja Faisal did say BS-001 is intact so mustve been ai doctored image so we can conclude this

BS-022(Likely the jet where that female indian pilot was piloting and shotdown in J&K)
BS-018
BS-021
BS-023
BS-027

But these are 5 rafales not 3? Did we show pity to them
 
Unfortunately, this is one thing that is true to be honest i wish we had a stable democracy

But i dont really get how that jingoistic tea seller a popular leader in India, he seems like a populist who takes credit for others work.
Do you really think the majoritarian fascism that masquerades as a democracy in India is worth emulating? Ask the minorities who live there what democracy means to them.
If Pakistan had not existed and all states that now comprise Pakistan and Bangladesh had been part of India, our children's lunch boxes at school would be checked for carrying beef/meat and our children would singing the Saraswati Vandana at school.
 
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Just a food for thought:
You have been very kind to post a very short list. The list is much longer.

The fact is that it is not great but better than state of affairs on your side.

I have posted earlier, Modis and Indiras have come and gone. Many of these thought that they had primacy over the nation - India. They all bit dust while nation stands tall.

We are moving forward, maybe, with a limp but Paksiatn seems to be moving backwards on many fronts.
 
Ever seen a Pakostani eat a mango? They flirt honor killing over the whose going to eat the seed let alone flesh.

You like poking the hornests nest? I am not interested in an opportunist Jaffri milking away the opportunity to claw back some credibility.

Why do all Andh Niazi Bakht follow a similar pattern

1) Contempt for the poor
2) Absolute racial superiority complex

I am offering you to fight rich Indians but you want to fight poor laborers from GCC.

I asked you a simple question and you responded like a malu..

I am just having fun with your little lun and playing it like a guitar

Now who many Swiss toliet cleaners are on GCC v Indians
 
You have been very kind to post a very short list. The list is much longer.

The fact is that it is not great but better than state of affairs on your side.

I have posted earlier, Modis and Indiras have come and gone. Many of these thought that they had primacy over the nation - India. They all bit dust while nation stands tall.

We are moving forward, maybe, with a limp but Paksiatn seems to be moving backwards on many fronts.
You are acting like we are stone age afghanistan, our country is sufficiently run

Your country is going through unemployment problems at the youth level, bad education system where pressure is put on the students, electricity problems aswell, Despite being a 3 trillion dollar economy your GDP Per Capita is lesser then bangladesh, Cow vigilantes targeting muslims,Human right abuses in J&K. how is this moving forward?
 
Based on one tweet? Those pics of BS-001 were genuine.
He is reliable he has sources inside of Indian media aswell. So we can conclude BS 018 and BS 021 and BS 023 and BS 027 and Maybe BS 022 were the ones hit and not BS 001
 
Democracies always have ups and downs. Even the most developed nations have gone through it. Even here, many people say that democracy isn’t the best thing. But if no democracy then what? Military rule? We have seen the condition of all the neighbours who had dictatorships. This is the way to go and we may not be the happiest lot but not unhappy either.


Many more before you have prophesied the same. We have seen much worse times.
We have been going strong. Modis and Indiras will come and go but as a nation we will keep going. May not be music to many ears, but that is what is likely.


Indian Military knows their place is in defending the nation and not ruling it. While it is quite the opposite for Pakistan.
Claiming that honour and rationality only exists on your side is a far stretch. We all know what happened to NLI soldiers and their honour after they laid down their lives. They were recognised many years later. Atrocities in East Pakistan hasn’t been forgotten either. It is better to not try and claim higher ground on this aspect.
We may not be the most functional and best in this part of the world but far ahead of Pakistan. .
The point being made is that India is not a democracy in the traditional sense. Information is regulated in India. Can you even begin to deny this reality or shall I spam articles of twitter and YT accounts being closed, artists being arrested for criticising Modi, information lockdowns in Occupied Kashmir? We can provide hundreds of samples from this year alone if you genuinely need them. So when you do mature as a democratic nation with the prerequisite level of information governance, then feel free to report back regarding "ups" and "downs". For now, it is established that India's best definition is that of an electoral autocracy (I.e. you flash pictures of old ladies with purple ink on their fingers but fail to advise the viewer that the information available to said ladies is strictly controlled). Observe the difficulties our own pdf members like @Sharma Ji have in accessing certain content that breaches regulatory policies in India.

When the hordes are kept in the dark, you essentially are reliant on having a benevolent autocrat at the helm, whether you define yourself as "democratic" or otherwise. I'm not sure Modi is as benevolent as you might think. He has no hesitation in expending innocent civilians for his causes.

I am not here to prophesise. The unravelling of India as a nation state began on 15th August 1947. The panicked annexation of multiple states is testament to this.

We don't need to derail the thread by discussing Bangladesh, but suffice to say, my position is that Manekshaw is a war criminal and terrorism planner. There is plenty of documented evidence of his terrorist acts against Bihari and West Pakistani civilians in erstwhile East Pakistan. Also kindly remind yourself that India chose to invade its sovereign neighbour while Pakistan was involved in its own internal matter at the time. 1971 was a watershed moment indeed in the subcontinent, yet Delhi still whinges that others deploy terrorists and others interfere in Delhi's internal affairs. In hinduism, this is known as karma. Hope you've heard of it.
 
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I don’t think Indians realise what kind of world class idiots they have become..
India really doesnt want panga with china. If they could barely match with us and would have lost if not for firing their 100s of brahmos making it a stalemate it would be catastrophic if they piss off china where all our equipment come from

From what i know India really claims Tibet as it was part of this Maurya Empire. And china claims a state of India Arunachal Pradesh. So i would not want to piss off china if i cant handle pakistan(from indian perspective)
 
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This guy is one sane and critical thinker from the other side of the border. I listen to his analysis on this war and he posesses alot of knowledge.
 

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