Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I’m still thinking about that helicopter 🚁 that supposedly CRASHED during their operation tandoor…… Self score?? And considering the history of self score not the best time to CRASHED for a helicopter… 🙂↔️
anything that goes down for arrogant and belligerent enemy is a win for us.
Either they scored own goal, or some minority deliberately did that.
Regardless it is a good thing for Pakistan
Cheers.
 
What a strange concept, politicians needing to do things to keep voters happy. I'm guessing Pakistan has no such worries… must be nice when elections are optional and the script is pre-approved by the boys upstairs.
Pakistan is united in its resolve to defend itself against any foreign aggression and give befitting reply. Doesn't matter what/who is in the Govt. Pakistan as a state is emerging as victorious and getting the respect worldwide.
The illusion of it being considered a "poor" country will soon change too and it will send shockers.
While yours, is starting to trend downward and will continue to do so. Respect lost is very very hard to regain internationally.
 
Pakistan is united in its resolve to defend itself against any foreign aggression and give befitting reply. Doesn't matter what/who is in the Govt. Pakistan as a state is emerging as victorious and getting the respect worldwide.
The illusion of it being considered a "poor" country will soon change too and it will send shockers.
While yours, is starting to trend downward and will continue to do so. Respect lost is very very hard to regain internationally.
Why are we focused on defence while India is on the offensive?
We need to level the scores and hit their defence infrastructure in an offensive strike. We can't keep sitting and letting them get bold over time.

Edit: we shouldn't have agreed to a ceasefire when we had the upper hand, and atleast level their airbases to avenge the loss of our PAF personnel at Bholari.
 
Dr. Moeed Pirzada says that according to rumours on social media, Field Marshal Asim Munir is meeting Trump during his visit to Washington between 13-15 June 2025.

Field Marshal Asim Munir’s visit to meet Donald Trump - if true - will come at a strategically charged moment in global and regional affairs. After India’s recent military setback and visible loss of credibility in the eyes of its defence partners, Pakistan finds itself in an unusual but advantageous position. The United States, particularly under Trump’s leadership, is known for pragmatic and transactional diplomacy. With India underperforming militarily - from the loss of S-400 components, Rafale jets, and multiple Russian-origin aircraft - questions are now being raised in Western capitals about India’s readiness, reliability, and overall strategic competence. The recent conflict in May 2025 has exposed that the Indian military, for all its hype, is still tactically and doctrinally unprepared for high-intensity conflict with a professional force like China - let alone Pakistan's.

Trump likely sees an opportunity to rebalance South Asia. India’s growing defence ties with France and persistent energy cooperation with Russia - despite Western sanctions - have most likely frustrated Washington. Add to that Modi’s diplomatic isolation, evident in India’s absence from recent G7 discussions, and it becomes clear that New Delhi’s Western alignment is more superficial than strategic. By contrast, Pakistan has proven to be militarily disciplined, regionally restrained yet assertive when necessary, and open to diplomatic channels, even amid conflict - something Trump would respect. This makes Pakistan a more predictable, if not more reliable, actor in the current security landscape.

Trump may also be calculating a diplomatic win in front of his supporters. A high-profile meeting with Pakistan’s military leadership will further bolster his image as a global dealmaker and demonstrate his ability to influence peace in a volatile nuclear region. More critically, it allows the U.S. to engage Pakistan directly at a time when China's strategic presence in the region is expanding through CPEC and defence cooperation with Pakistan. Trump’s outreach may include incentives like IMF flexibility, economic guarantees, or military coordination, in exchange for Pakistan maintaining strategic balance between the U.S. and China, and acting as a moderating influence in the region.

In short, this meeting - if it happens - will not be a coincidence. It will signal a recalibrated U.S. approach to South Asia where Pakistan is no longer just viewed through the lens of Afghanistan or counterterrorism, but as a serious geopolitical player - one that just decisively put India in check. The fact that Trump, not Modi, is initiating such a meeting tells us everything about how the perception of regional power has begun to shift.

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Dr. Moeed Pirzada says that according to rumours on social media, Field Marshal Asim Munir is meeting Trump during his visit to Washington between 13-15 June 2025.

Field Marshal Asim Munir’s visit to meet Donald Trump - if true - will come at a strategically charged moment in global and regional affairs. After India’s recent military setback and visible loss of credibility in the eyes of its defence partners, Pakistan finds itself in an unusual but advantageous position. The United States, particularly under Trump’s leadership, is known for pragmatic and transactional diplomacy. With India underperforming militarily - from the loss of S-400 components, Rafale jets, and multiple Russian-origin aircraft - questions are now being raised in Western capitals about India’s readiness, reliability, and overall strategic competence. The recent conflict in May 2025 has exposed that the Indian military, for all its hype, is still tactically and doctrinally unprepared for high-intensity conflict with a professional force like China - let alone Pakistan's.

Trump likely sees an opportunity to rebalance South Asia. India’s growing defence ties with France and persistent energy cooperation with Russia - despite Western sanctions - have most likely frustrated Washington. Add to that Modi’s diplomatic isolation, evident in India’s absence from recent G7 discussions, and it becomes clear that New Delhi’s Western alignment is more superficial than strategic. By contrast, Pakistan has proven to be militarily disciplined, regionally restrained yet assertive when necessary, and open to diplomatic channels, even amid conflict - something Trump would respect. This makes Pakistan a more predictable, if not more reliable, actor in the current security landscape.

Trump may also be calculating a diplomatic win in front of his supporters. A high-profile meeting with Pakistan’s military leadership will further bolster his image as a global dealmaker and demonstrate his ability to influence peace in a volatile nuclear region. More critically, it allows the U.S. to engage Pakistan directly at a time when China's strategic presence in the region is expanding through CPEC and defence cooperation with Pakistan. Trump’s outreach may include incentives like IMF flexibility, economic guarantees, or military coordination, in exchange for Pakistan maintaining strategic balance between the U.S. and China, and acting as a moderating influence in the region.

In short, this meeting - if it happens - will not be a coincidence. It will signal a recalibrated U.S. approach to South Asia where Pakistan is no longer just viewed through the lens of Afghanistan or counterterrorism, but as a serious geopolitical player - one that just decisively put India in check. The fact that Trump, not Modi, is initiating such a meeting tells us everything about how the perception of regional power has begun to shift.

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American president will never meet this chaprasi general ......At most he will see the defence secretary according to his auk........
 
What a strange concept, politicians needing to do things to keep voters happy. I'm guessing Pakistan has no such worries… must be nice when elections are optional and the script is pre-approved by the boys upstairs.
At least not jingoism and hating an entire neighbouring country for an election, you guys should learn a thing or two.
 
I think it is getting a little sad to watch Indian channels breast beating even though I want to give credit to India's whatever freedom of press left compared with Pakistan. I suspect they are from the Indian Left / anti Modi side but they still portray a side of India worth watching and not because those voices would be amusing to your ears, but because, in a nation of 1.4 billion people, contrary voices are so vocally fewer.

This video is full of tears. It is too late in night here for me to summarize but English captions are available. I think the biggest takeaway would be that Americans have Indians by the balls from asking for trade concessions to UNSC Veto because India can no longer rely on an absolute Russia Veto in the UNSC. Oh boy!!!


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I think it is getting a little sad to watch Indian channels breast beating even though I want to give credit to India's whatever freedom of press left compared with Pakistan. I suspect they are from the Indian Left / anti Modi side but they still portray a side of India worth watching and not because those voices would be amusing to your ears, but because, in a nation of 1.4 billion people, contrary voices are so vocally fewer.

This video is full of tears. It is too late in night here for me to summarize but English captions are available. I think the biggest takeaway would be that Americans have Indians by the balls from asking for trade concessions to UNSC Veto because India can no longer rely on an absolute Russia Veto in the UNSC. Oh boy!!!


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Modi is utterly disastrous for India.
 
I didn't think Bilawal Bhutto would be so openly against India-Israel combine while in NYC. Pakistan's economic dependence upon the America led order is too significant for such displays as by Bilawal.

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What is the legal status of LoC post Simla Agreement abolition?

There is LoC. Line of Control.
There is LAC. Line of Actual control.
 

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