Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Dalit]

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Pajeeets crying again. Time to expose more Indian sponsored terror.

Lindus crying is a joy for the eyes.

 

[Corax]

Pakistan's decision not to use its Babur and RAAD cruise missiles has nothing to do with restraint. These missiles are not as capable as advertised—much like Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence. There’s a reason why Indian leadership often refers to Pakistan's nuclear threat as a bluff.

Rather like how the Rafales and S400 performance is not as advertised.

 

[Corax]

There has been no doubt about PAF getting better of the IAF on the first day.
Accepted. Great performance.

The issue is that most members want to keep gloating over that and don’t want to accept failure of there defence forces later.

S400 is a highly mobile system and a prized target for an enemy. Even a fool would not keep it deployed for even a moment more than bare minimum required. IAF did the same. Fanboys can’t digest this fact and for them tyre marks are an indication of its failure.

Claim that PAF struck 26 bases or 100 bases is a hollow claim. There is not even one hazy picture to show that they could make even one pockmark.

As per fanboys, IAF was grounded and S400 was hiding. Then what was PAF doing? Did it make use of that opportunity to strike anything?
All this while SU30s were lobbing Brahmos and other aircraft were firing Scalp and Rampage.

When a missile strikes 10 Kms from your national capital and GHQ then you don’t gloat but accept that the enemy did create a nasty surprise. Provided, one is not a Bhaktora or a fanboy.

It was your own military that claimed 26 targets struck on your side. Only an idiot would believe hiding the S400 is justified despite it's much vaunted capability, if there was no threat from PAF SEAD/DEAD strikes, why did you need to hide it? What high value asset did you destroy on the Pak military side? How many "terrorists" do you kill?

 

[Corax]

Pakistan's decision not to use its Babur and RAAD cruise missiles has nothing to do with restraint. These missiles are not as capable as advertised—much like Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence. There’s a reason why Indian leadership often refers to Pakistan's nuclear threat as a bluff.

Why are you ashamed to show yourself as an indian tunni bakht?

 

[falcon34]

First day was a different story.
First day also S400 could have played a big deterrent but mandate was to strike only few targets and not to engage any military targets. By the time the loss of fighters dawned on IAF, it was too late for them to do anything as all aircraft had retreated by then.

H4 is optically guided is well known. My question is why couldn’t it be used if PAF had total control of the air with S400 not there to challenge them?
So destruction of S400 has taken place only on this forum not actually. Otherwise PAF would have made use of that opportunity to strike back. More so when IAF was pounding all over PAF bases.

Theory that ceasefire stopped them also doesn’t hold good. In a hot scenario each side is ready for all possibilities, which includes changing weapons as required. While striking S400 PAF would have worked out the plan after it is confirmed to be made non operational. As PAF didn’t try anything new shows that strike wasn’t a success.


It is again a wrong notion being sold across. Before declaring Op Bunyan Masrros, there were waves of drones launched from your side to degrade Indian AD. On both 8th and 9th night AD was fully active on Indian side and there are multitudes of videos made by civilians of the same. It seems that the drone push didn’t work as planned. This was proven when Fatah assault was started.

Day one act of PAF was brilliant.
But thereafter your defence forces fell way short. In both defence as well as offence. In defence as Indian forces struck all across Pakistan with proof of success in the form of BDA. In offence as there is no damage at all to show on Indian side.

S400 destruction is based on tyre makes seen inside Adampur. No professional would accept it as anything other than speculation.

If S400 wasn't struck why modi posed with launchers, why didn't he posed with chessboard radar. There is CCTV footage from karwal resort from may 7th just before Indians children killer formations released their payloads.

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This explains perfectly well why India couldn't support the Strike packages with S-400 cover. On 10th the S400 at bhuj was targeted fate unknown. I refuse to believe India's target were civilians targets they wanted to even with PAF, they had a ambush planned but PAF was already in their Systems listening everything.
IAF got lucky next time they won't be.
The angle and that hut structure matches that of karwal resort. Cheeseboard radar was the first casualty of the war.

 

[Vkdindian1]

If S400 wasn't struck why modi posed with launchers, why didn't he posed with chessboard radar. There is CCTV footage from karwal resort from may 7th just before Indians children killer formations released their payloads.

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This explains perfectly well why India couldn't support the Strike packages with S-400 cover. On 10th the S400 at bhuj was targeted fate unknown. I refuse to believe India's target were civilians targets they wanted to even with PAF, they had a ambush planned but PAF was already in their Systems listening everything.
IAF got lucky next time they won't be.

So Pakistan was taking all the hits from India at all the bases and within 10Kms from GHQ with a plan in mind?

Great plan it must be.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Corax]

So Pakistan was taking all the hits from India at all the bases and within 10Kms from GHQ with a plan in mind?

Great plan it must be.

Rather like how the infians launched over 70 aircraft strike package not to fight with the PAF or expect the PAF to fight back? Great plan. Like I said, some missiles did get through, no defence is 100%, most were soft killed or kinetic, pics of downed scalp and Brahmos aplenty. If so many brahmos did get through, why is there such little damage on the Pak side? Why didn't you destroy a single high value asset?

 

[the vicious kind]

Pakistan's decision not to use its Babur and RAAD cruise missiles has nothing to do with restraint. These missiles are not as capable as advertised—much like Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence. There’s a reason why Indian leadership often refers to Pakistan's nuclear threat as a bluff.

Honestly, saying Pakistan’s Babur and RAAD cruise missiles aren’t capable , just because they werent used is frankly, deluded. If you closely monitor the events of the 3 days. You will find that by the time Pakistan responded, the de-ecalation talks were already in full swing. Giving Pakistan just hours of time to respond before the ceasefire kicked in. If there were more days of conflict, i am pretty sure, you would have seen them being used in large numbers.

And about the “Nuclear bluff” — Unlike many western defence analysts, the Indian politicians are quite deranged in underplaying our nuclear threat poised by our nuclear arsenal and delivery systems. A couple of 10-20 kt Nuclear bombs, ended the entire war in the pacific, in a matter of days. Majority of Indian cities are more densly packed than hiroshima or nagasaki. Even a limited nuclear strike on urban or military targets could kill hundreds of thousands to millions of people instantly. There are so many studies and papers on this , I suggest looking them up rather than listening to cerebral diahrea spewed by retarded politicians.

 

[falcon34]

So Pakistan was taking all the hits from India at all the bases and within 10Kms from GHQ with a plan in mind?

Great plan it must be.

Incompetent leadership on our side, they wasted two days of aerial superiority, PAF wasn't given operational freedom. Peaceniks won in this round, this gave the IAF the chance to regroup and launch sorties on 10th May.
Just answer two questions.
Where is the wreckage of intercepted Fatah missiles??
Why modi didn't posed with a chessboard radar??.

 

[falcon34]

Honestly, saying Pakistan’s Babur and RAAD cruise missiles aren’t capable , just because they werent used is frankly, deluded. If you closely monitor the events of the 3 days. You will find that by the time Pakistan responded, the de-ecalation talks were already in full swing. Giving Pakistan just hours of time to respond before the ceasefire kicked in. If there were more days of conflict, i am pretty sure, you would have seen them being used in large numbers.

And about the “Nuclear bluff” — Unlike many western defence analysts, the Indian politicians are quite deranged in underplaying our nuclear threat poised by our nuclear arsenal and delivery systems. A couple of 10-20 kt Nuclear bombs, ended the entire war in the pacific, in a matter of days. Majority of Indian cities are more densly packed than hiroshima or nagasaki. Even a limited nuclear strike on urban or military targets could kill hundreds of thousands to millions of people instantly. There are so many studies and papers on this , I suggest looking them up rather than listening to cerebral diahrea spewed by retarded politicians.

You can't blame the indians it was our incompetence especially that of political leadership, that gave the indians face saving. I wish we hadn't shot down their planes. PAF would have went really hard on the indians.

 

[TAC]

They fail, as a nation overall, to learn in the usual evidence-based way (cause and effect) because of apparent cognitive deficiencies among the unwashed masses. These hordes have been dalitised in terms of their opinionation, cognisance, and rationality.

We can observe this in their constant denial of simple visual evidences and the sheer diabolical nature of their attempts to mitigate, divert, and obfuscate losses, extending all the way as far as urban class, mainstream English language press.

The educated urban classes themselves were writing and reading about "decoys being shot down" and proudly echoing this clickbait narrative right up until the moment General Chauhan forced them to see sense and cold hard logic. After the Chauhan incident, they scrambled to produce a new narrative, which fell anywhere along the "Chauhan misspoke and is a traitor" to "we only have 1 absolutely ultra confirmed crash which anyway wasn't a shoot down but was a hard landing with subsequent repairs" spectrum of incredulity.

The bigger problem for India isn't the gullible nature of the illiterate, irrational and poorly cognitive "vote bank" that is there to blindly cast their vote and keep sanghee loons in power, but it is actually that small minority of genuinely rational individuals who gladly sustain the ignorance within their nation for their own motives. These self-appointed intellectual elites are ensuring their own ultimate destruction. To be fair to them though, many of this dwindling group have already left India.

The official Indian stance of…..
‘The number of jets we lost is not important’ and the concept that they grounded for a couple of days in the middle of a war to sort out their tactics is somehow good —- is the most ridiculous position taken by any Air Force in modern aviation history.
Despite attacking how they wanted, where they wanted, when they wanted, with what they wanted, they were smashed to bits with again no comparison in modern aviation history. A country this big should be gracefull enough to accept defeat and learn from their mistakes but not happening with Modi and Godi in charge and a military leadership all too happy to toe the line and save their skins.

 

[the vicious kind]

There has been no doubt about PAF getting better of the IAF on the first day.
Accepted. Great performance.

The issue is that most members want to keep gloating over that and don’t want to accept failure of there defence forces later.

S400 is a highly mobile system and a prized target for an enemy. Even a fool would not keep it deployed for even a moment more than bare minimum required. IAF did the same. Fanboys can’t digest this fact and for them tyre marks are an indication of its failure.

Claim that PAF struck 26 bases or 100 bases is a hollow claim. There is not even one hazy picture to show that they could make even one pockmark.

As per fanboys, IAF was grounded and S400 was hiding. Then what was PAF doing? Did it make use of that opportunity to strike anything?
All this while SU30s were lobbing Brahmos and other aircraft were firing Scalp and Rampage.

When a missile strikes 10 Kms from your national capital and GHQ then you don’t gloat but accept that the enemy did create a nasty surprise. Provided, one is not a Bhaktora or a fanboy.

Let’s be real—if we’re talking about the actual impact of Indian strikes, it’s nothing to write home about either. Hitting a hangar at Nur Khan that was back in action within hours? The Saudi Foreign Minister literally landed there the next day. Striking a gate at Kirana, a random AA battery at Walton Cantt, or an empty field near Sargodha? Come on. And that maintenance hangar at Bholari? Not exactly a game-changer.

And let’s not forget—there are plenty of images floating around of BrahMos and SCALP missiles either being shot down,jammed or landing harmlessly in open fields.

Honestly, both Indian and Pakistani strikes so far haven’t been devastating by any stretch. Each side flexed just enough to send a message, but nowhere near full capacity.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Let’s be real—if we’re talking about the actual impact of Indian strikes, it’s nothing to write home about either. Hitting a hangar at Nur Khan that was back in action within hours? The Saudi Foreign Minister literally landed there the next day. Striking a gate at Kirana, a random AA battery at Walton Cantt, or an empty field near Sargodha? Come on. And that maintenance hangar at Bholari? Not exactly a game-changer.

And let’s not forget—there are plenty of images floating around of BrahMos and SCALP missiles either being shot down,jammed or landing harmlessly in open fields.

Honestly, both Indian and Pakistani strikes so far haven’t been devastating by any stretch. Each side flexed just enough to send a message, but nowhere near full capacity.

they really think we have a nuclear facility in kirana hills too LOLz

even indian military was laughing at these sanghis

When you drop upto 100s of missiles like brahmos(i dont believe it for a second it was 15 from a stupid bogus article-we proved it with radars) some were bound to get through anyway but most were intercepted or jammed

We need to now work on AD and HQ-19 is a good step

 

[safriz]

Negative.

Block III, or JF-17 in general do not have any Kills.

Iranian drones were shot down by Block 2