Maarkhoor
Snake Eater
They fell mostly inside Indian territory since they were fired blindly further we have some debris not worth to humiliate west more.
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Cash gk
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Guys Indian hate this man .. always try to defend him comment
TAC
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Third point is misleading. PAF had no choice but to letHere we go....This is as close as we will get to UK officially providing the information about the war....ENJOY....
"The first is that during the engagements, Pakistani forces fired a significant number of PL-15 air-to-air missiles from either J-10CE and/or potentially JF-17 fighters, as well as a number of HQ-9 long range surface-to-air missiles.
The second is that the Indian Air Force suffered several fighter losses, including one Dassault Rafale, one Mig-29 and likely a Su-30MKI among one or two additional losses for which no definitive wreckage has been seen in open source.
Third, the Indian Air Force was consistently able to penetrate Pakistani air defences with air-launched standoff munitions to strike a range of terrorist-linked and military sites, despite heavy and well-coordinated defences.
Fourth, the assistance provided by China to Pakistani forces in terms of both technical equipment provision and also intelligence and C2 support enabled the Pakistani forces to perform significantly better against the Indian Air Force than the latter had anticipated.
The specific downing of a relatively newly delivered Rafale has, naturally, led many Pakistani and Chinese sources to proclaim a great victory for Chinese fighter aircraft and missile technology over French (and potentially wider Western) equivalents. Dassault’s share price has fallen significantly since the engagements, while that of Chengdu – the manufacturer of the J-10CE – has risen."
Key Questions about the India-Pakistan Aerial Clashes
There is a risk of drawing the wrong conclusions about Chinese and Western air capabilities from the recent clashes if Indian fighter losses are looked at without close examination of the wider operational picture.www.rusi.org
AF fire first salvo of their SOW’s on the 7th before attacking them. Once SOW’s have been fired of course they will hit something. While there may have been some air to ground activity by AF after the 7th it was limited.
Just like Indian military learned after 2019?
Maarkhoor
Snake Eater
I had talk with wing commander few days back and he replied that they "PAF' was thinking and planning that Indian side learned already our tactics and would employ their experience after 2019 but he said we are surprise they "IAF" learned nothing only enhances their ignorance and manage to get shoot down their 6+jets.
TAC
Registered Member
They never accept their errors or hold anyone to account, instead give out medals for made up events and declare hollow ‘victory’ so how are they possibly going to learn. Good job too.
Yasser76
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Enjoy Jaishankers cope here! Utter clown show
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"It [Pakistan] is a country very steeped in its use of terrorism as an instrument of state policy. That is the whole issue," Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told POLITICO during a visit to Brussels. | Pool photo by Kiyoshi Ota/EFE via EPA
June 9, 2025 9:43 pm CET
By Nicholas Vinocur and Nicolas Barré
Nearly three weeks after the end of a brief but brutal India-Pakistan war, New Delhi on Monday warned that the root causes of the conflict remain unchanged — and that India stands ready to strike anywhere in Pakistan if provoked by terrorist attacks.
"It [Pakistan] is a country very steeped in its use of terrorism as an instrument of state policy. That is the whole issue," Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told POLITICO during a visit to Brussels.
Asked if the conditions that led to the outbreak of war last month were still in place, he said: "If you call the commitment to terrorism a source of tension, absolutely, it is."
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Conflict broke out in early May after India accused Pakistan of sponsoring a terrorist attack that killed 26 civilians, mainly Hindus, in an Indian-administered region. Pakistan has denied sponsoring terrorism.
Following days of tit-for-tat missile and aerial strikes that prompted widespread alarm about the potential for further escalation between the two nuclear-armed powers, India and Pakistan declared a ceasefire on May 10.
Both sides declared victory, but their reports on how the war unfolded differed. India initially denied claims that Pakistan had shot down as many as six of its fighter jets, but a senior Indian military official later acknowledged that India had indeed lost planes — without specifying how many or what type.
Images of wreckage posted on social media suggest that one Mirage jet and one Rafale jet, both French-made fighters, had been destroyed. U.S. and French officials have told several media outlets that Pakistan was able to down at least one French-made jet with Chinese technology.
Pressed to clarify what had happened, Jaishankar didn't deny the destruction of Indian Air Force planes, but said the appropriate authorities would communicate on the matter when ready.
In some of the most pointed comments by an Indian official since a ceasefire was declared, he argued that India's fighter planes and missiles had inflicted far more extensive damage on the Pakistani Air Force than vice versa, forcing Pakistan to sue for peace.
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"As far I'm concerned, how effective the Rafale was or frankly, how effective other systems were — to me the proof of the pudding are the destroyed and disabled airfields on the Pakistani side," he said.
"The fighting stopped on the 10th for one reason and one reason only, which was that on the 10th morning we hit these eight Pakistani, the main eight Pakistani airfields and disabled them."
"And don't take my word for it, these are images which are available in Google. You can look at those runways and those hangars which have taken the hit," he added.
Jaishankar, who was in Brussels for high-level trade talks with the European Union, further asserted that Pakistan was training "thousands" of terrorists "in the open" and "unleashing" them on its southern neighbor.
"We are not going to live with it. So our message to them is that if you continue to do the kind of barbaric acts which they did in April, then there is going to be retribution, and that retribution will be against the terrorist organizations and the terrorist leadership."
"And we don't care where they are. If they are deep in Pakistan, we will go deep into Pakistan," he added.
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"It [Pakistan] is a country very steeped in its use of terrorism as an instrument of state policy. That is the whole issue," Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told POLITICO during a visit to Brussels. | Pool photo by Kiyoshi Ota/EFE via EPA
June 9, 2025 9:43 pm CET
By Nicholas Vinocur and Nicolas Barré
Nearly three weeks after the end of a brief but brutal India-Pakistan war, New Delhi on Monday warned that the root causes of the conflict remain unchanged — and that India stands ready to strike anywhere in Pakistan if provoked by terrorist attacks.
"It [Pakistan] is a country very steeped in its use of terrorism as an instrument of state policy. That is the whole issue," Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told POLITICO during a visit to Brussels.
Asked if the conditions that led to the outbreak of war last month were still in place, he said: "If you call the commitment to terrorism a source of tension, absolutely, it is."
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Conflict broke out in early May after India accused Pakistan of sponsoring a terrorist attack that killed 26 civilians, mainly Hindus, in an Indian-administered region. Pakistan has denied sponsoring terrorism.
Following days of tit-for-tat missile and aerial strikes that prompted widespread alarm about the potential for further escalation between the two nuclear-armed powers, India and Pakistan declared a ceasefire on May 10.
Both sides declared victory, but their reports on how the war unfolded differed. India initially denied claims that Pakistan had shot down as many as six of its fighter jets, but a senior Indian military official later acknowledged that India had indeed lost planes — without specifying how many or what type.
Images of wreckage posted on social media suggest that one Mirage jet and one Rafale jet, both French-made fighters, had been destroyed. U.S. and French officials have told several media outlets that Pakistan was able to down at least one French-made jet with Chinese technology.
Pressed to clarify what had happened, Jaishankar didn't deny the destruction of Indian Air Force planes, but said the appropriate authorities would communicate on the matter when ready.
In some of the most pointed comments by an Indian official since a ceasefire was declared, he argued that India's fighter planes and missiles had inflicted far more extensive damage on the Pakistani Air Force than vice versa, forcing Pakistan to sue for peace.
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"As far I'm concerned, how effective the Rafale was or frankly, how effective other systems were — to me the proof of the pudding are the destroyed and disabled airfields on the Pakistani side," he said.
"The fighting stopped on the 10th for one reason and one reason only, which was that on the 10th morning we hit these eight Pakistani, the main eight Pakistani airfields and disabled them."
"And don't take my word for it, these are images which are available in Google. You can look at those runways and those hangars which have taken the hit," he added.
Jaishankar, who was in Brussels for high-level trade talks with the European Union, further asserted that Pakistan was training "thousands" of terrorists "in the open" and "unleashing" them on its southern neighbor.
"We are not going to live with it. So our message to them is that if you continue to do the kind of barbaric acts which they did in April, then there is going to be retribution, and that retribution will be against the terrorist organizations and the terrorist leadership."
"And we don't care where they are. If they are deep in Pakistan, we will go deep into Pakistan," he added.
India ready to strike ‘deep into Pakistan’ if provoked, New Delhi warns amid shaky ceasefire
The nuclear-armed countries fought a short but intense war in April that caused concern around the world.
www.politico.eu
hydrabadi_arab
SpeedLimited
Sure sure Jaishankar
Fixing crater on road cost more then SU-30 and rebuilding hangar more then Rafale.
Fatman17
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Does realistic reporting
This clown Jai Shankar was also glorified a lot like he is some foreign affairs genius
This conflict has exposed this joker too along with Rafale
He is acting like just any p@jeet on social media who thinks that Rafale at Bathinda costs less than potholes on a couple of runways and some damaged hangers
Beijingwalker
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Yasser76
Elite Member
Not his fault, he has the job of being sent out to polish a turd in front of the world. I mean"Go check Google". FFS! Sounds worse then some of the Indian clowns on here
S.Y.A
Trusted Member
sorry to point this out: there still was no immediate retaliation.
we didnt bomb india immediately, we let them attack us for two full days using drones and cruise missiles before jumping into action, that too after an airbase was hit.
loss of civilian life is not considered significant enough by our planners to retaliate.
Totally agreed on this one
Bunyan marsoos should have happened within 24-36 hours max of that attack of 7th May and not after 4 days
