Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NationalistPKDude132]

ISPR presented proof he deemed adequate.
No one is asking for a running commentary. Was proof of shooting down IAF aircraft a running commentary?
You think that ISPR didn’t get hold of these pictures?
Please also note that it is not only official agencies that do these analyses. It is done by many individuals and entities and they have spawned after Russia-Ukraine war.
They are the ones who came out with most damning data in your regard.

Please sell this idea to your fanboys.

OSINT definitely supports the idea of airbases hitting

Why were no Fatah 1 missile wreckages shown, if you intercepted them


This is an agree to disagree here i guess. Regardless mate we should be thankful saner heads prevailed

 

[Vkdindian1]

Regardless mate we should be thankful saner heads prevailed

That I fully agree with.

OSINT definitely supports the idea of airbases hitting

I remember you making this claim in an earlier post. None of those were OSINT quality. Calling any video or picture OSINT doesn’t make it credible.

So, let’s agree to disagree.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

I remember you making this claim in an earlier post. None of those were OSINT quality. Calling any video or picture OSINT doesn’t make it credible.

I disagree with you when there are clear visuals. Again i guess its agree to disagree, i hope we find out more about how Pakistan conducted its May 10th operation

 

[Cookie Monster]

Other’s realities are delusions but own delusions are also facts. That is the gist of your post.
I presented an argument devoid of any emotions or lofty fantasies. While your post has focussed only on these two.
You are mixing facts and emotions and creating an argument devoid of brevity and objective thinking.

I never claimed that Pakistan is not capable of this or that. I never said Chini maal, or raptor of the east etc etc. But you have chosen to quote them as there is nothing you can say to place your case here.

I just stated the facts based on the events in the aftermath of Op Sindhoor. And you have tried to create poetry.

If you have no argument or proof of your success of ground attacks then there is nothing wrong in accepting it. But, accepting one’s faults or mistakes takes a little more than what many people posses.

You have chosen to believe that things will unfold only in your favour? And I am the one who is delusional?

Please carry on with your belief that all advantages lie with you and all is well on your side and bad on Indian side.

So now u r having comprehension issues as well? Go back to the post I quoted of urs...
...before u get on ur high horse..find me the objective proofs in that post...
..the gist of it was an argument u presented...ur argument was based on "India could've done this and that"...and when I pointed out the flaw in ur reasoning...using ur own argument...
...all of a sudden I'm creating "fanciful poetry"

Sure buddy...whatever helps u sleep at night.

At the end of the day...it concludes with this...if India was so powerful and strong...instead of u lot putting forth coping arguments...inventing victories...sending delegations around the world to peddle ur propaganda...
...we would have actually seen results on the ground.

What has India achieved? Is ur Kashmir claim still some lines on the map? Yes
Have any militant attacks stopped? No
Does Pakistan take India's use of force lying down? No

...feel free to adhere to India strong, Pakistan weak...and all the other Bollywood type of narratives we see constantly from ur side...
...just spare us this "guise of trying to be objective"...everyone here sees right through it...u r not fooling anyone.

 

[Vkdindian1]

At the end of the day...it concludes with this...if India was so powerful and strong...instead of u lot putting forth coping arguments...inventing victories...sending delegations around the world to peddle ur propaganda...
...we would have actually seen results on the ground.

What has India achieved? Is ur Kashmir claim still some lines on the map? Yes
Have any militant attacks stopped? No
Does Pakistan take India's use of force lying down? No

Again wasting bandwidth to make completely unrelated statements. I never touched on any of these. But the fact hat you are trying to hide behind these, shows your intent of running away from the actual discussion.

feel free to adhere to India strong, Pakistan weak.

Again, not my observation or comment.

just spare us this "guise of trying to be objective"...everyone here sees right through it...u r not fooling anyone.

I am not here in any guise. Unlike you, I have stated exactly what I wanted to say, very clearly.

You have tried to sidetrack and run away from the real topic? Poor attempt at that.

 

[TAC]

Again wasting bandwidth to make completely unrelated statements. I never touched on any of these. But the fact hat you are trying to hide behind these, shows your intent of running away from the actual discussion.

Again, not my observation or comment.

I am not here in any guise. Unlike you, I have stated exactly what I wanted to say, very clearly.

You have tried to sidetrack and run away from the real topic? Poor attempt at that.

The ‘real topic’ is —2025 IAF v PAF = 6-0 including Ra-failed, all the rest is pointless BS discussion for copers - just wanted to make sure I also ‘stated exactly what I wanted to say’.

 

[lightning f57]

No one is asking for a running commentary. Was proof of shooting down IAF aircraft a running commentary?

seems like you are, the ISPR conference happened during the confrontation they dont need to kerp running press briefings about damage to indian bases especially right after a ceasefire its counter productive.

You think that ISPR didn’t get hold of these pictures? There is a reason for them to not publish those or utter even a word about them. The reason is failure to make a mark.

Please also note that it is not only official agencies that do these analyses. It is done by many individuals and entities and they have spawned after Russia-Ukraine war.
They are the ones who came out with most damning data in your regard.

So your saying there was no damage done to the 26 targets they hit? Where's your proof? Seems India has better air defence than the US and Israel combined.

Individuals and entities do analysis based on what is available like I said absence of evidence does not mean it didn't happen.

Please sell this idea to your fanboys.

Im not selling anything people like you fail to prove that no damage was done just because there are lack of satellite pictures but plenty of videos and pictures from normal people pointing In direction of Indian bases with big plumes of smoke and fire. Indian military has failed to disclose even what fighter jets they lost and you talk about zero damage. Thats why your rationale can't be taken seriously.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Their own allies don't trust the jeets anymore

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[Oscar]

Their own allies don't trust the jeets anymore

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What’s in the F-35 is decades years ahead of what India has on ground.
I would not trust anyone either. As the pilot it is your responsibility to ensure safety and security of systems.

Plenty of eager HAL folks wanting to take a peek.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

What’s in the F-35 is decades years ahead of what India has on ground.
I would not trust anyone either. As the pilot it is your responsibility to ensure safety and security of systems.

Plenty of eager HAL folks wanting to take a peek.

Back in the day, think around 2005, when we (DHL) owned the airport in Wilmington, OH (the former Clinton County AFB), the airport was still used by the OHANG for touch'n'goes and all that.

One afternoon, an F-16 touches down and parks some distance away. Mechanical issue. Not too long after that, a helicopter arrives and there is an Security Forces guard posted at the aircraft.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Their own allies don't trust the jeets anymore

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lol..

The Russian advisers in India will be all over that thing if they get the chance..

If he landed because of fuel and the pilot had security concerns, then why not refuel and take off straight away!?,

 

[Distant_Observer]

So with Israel attacking Iran around the same time as India attacking Pakistan. So both are linked clearly.

What are the reasons India was asked to attack Pakistan? What was the benefit? They already had a friendly regime.

Was it to to map out Pakistans defenses and capabilities as an insurance? As they already knew they will declare war on Iran shortly.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

So with Israel attacking Iran around the same time as India attacking Pakistan. So both are linked clearly.

What are the reasons India was asked to attack Pakistan? What was the benefit? They are already had a friendly regime.

Was it to to map out Pakistans defenses and capabilities as an insurance? As they already knew they will declare war on Iran shortly.

Because West and israel wanted to see how powerful Pakistan is so israel put its good little dog/proxy India to the test

Then india faced 6-0 then their airbases got bombed(this one will upset alot of indian members) and also we were about to target their economic centres and they f**ked off begging to trump for a ceasefire

And to those who are saying "What about water treaty" You wussies wont dare block our water as right now even without the treaty water is freely passing through your dams. And if you try that shi in the future your dams will be bombed to bits

 

[Psyko70]

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[baqai]

Any source ? Man this is serjous ?

This is expected, they will do something