Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[gamaji]

Looking forward to the day when Trump finally states Indian jets, usual suspects here will argue he meant Indonesian.

Loving the cope on here today though

Finally a sigh of relief for Indian trolls.

 

[Oracle]

Well to summarise it says

Only 1 or more Indiam jet were down and PAF had upper hand on first day of war.

From 2nd day Indian kept on winning

2 Pakistani air defense were neutralise. And Pakistan air defense didnt perform well.

Indian air defense performed well despite Pakistan claim

 

[Corax]

Regular publication of the Hungarian Institute of International Affairs.
Publisher:
© Hungarian Institute of International Affairs, 2025.

EVEN WITH A BLOODIED NOSE, INDIA CONTROLS THE LEVEL OF ESCALATION.

In the first few hours, the Pakistani Air Force fought well and demonstrat-ed that, despite the disparity in the two sides’ total conventional forces, India enjoys no overwhelming superiority in smaller-scale, technology- heavy skirmishes short of a full-scale war. This outcome, including alleged images of downed Indian Rafale jets, made headlines around the world.
That said, over the next three days, Pakistan took more damage, especial-ly as a result of the underperformance of its Chinese-made air defense sys-tems, the strong performance of India’s Russian-made equivalents, and the ability of French, Israeli, and joint Indian–Russian equipment on the Indian side to conduct long-range, high-precision strikes deep in Pakistani territory while denying Pakistan such feats. All in all, despite taking some embarrassing losses on day one, India demonstrated its strategic advantage over Pakistan.
While Operation Sindoor was initially met with a Pakistani artillery shelling and small arms firing exchange along the Kashmiri Line of Control (LoC), Islamabad reserved the right to further respond “at a time, place, and manner of its choosing. ” Both sides claimed that the other had been conducting drone and missile strikes against its cities and air defense systems. Both India and Pakistan also claimed that their own air defense performed well in countering these attempts. May 10 also started with tit-for-tat missile strikes on both side’s air bases. Later that day, Pakistan launched its official response, Operation Bunyan-un- Marsoos (“Unbreakable Wall”), targeting Indian military bases, including in the state of Punjab in India’s internationally-recognized territory. Pakistan claimed that its operation severely damaged or destroyed over twenty Indian targets, including airfields, BrahMos storage facilities, and two S-400 air defense systems. India’s “retaliation to retaliation” saw the expansion of Operation Sindoor, thus far supposedly limited to terrorist targets, to include eleven PAF air bases selected based on their importance in terms of command and control, air defense, and drone warfare operations. The targets included the Nur Khan Air Force base near Rawalpindi, the headquarters of the Pakistani Armed Forces.
In contrast to Pakistan’s relative success in the May 8 dogfights, during the later-stage drone and missile exchanges, India’s air defense seems to have performed far better than that of Pakistan. Indian BrahMos missiles likely breached Pakistani air defenses around Lahore, Chaklala, and Sialkot and neutralized Pakistan’s Chinese-made HQ-9 and HQ-16 air defense systems. Analyses of satellite imagery by the New York Times and the Washington Post suggest that the damage inflicted by India was geographically widespread but relatively limited—probably intentionally so, since the hits appear fairly precise, targeted at specific command buildings at Nur Khan, hangars at Bholari, and airstrips at Rahim Yar Khan and Sargodha.
Pakistan’s accounts of significant damage to Indian Air Force bases cannot be corroborated, although one soldier’s family confirmed his death at Udhampur Air Force Base. India claims that its domestically-devel-oped Akashteer air defense control and reporting system adopted in 2024 played the most crucial role in detecting the incoming Pakistani projectiles.
All in all, despite downing at least one top-tier Indian jet fighter, it seems that Pakistan could not mount an effective retaliatory campaign targeting Indian and Indian-controlled Kashmiri territory. India, meanwhile, demonstrated that it is capable of striking valuable Pakistani military assets deep in Pakistani territory with relatively high precision.
It seems that while not initially overwhelming, India very much did have an edge in the conflict.

Source: Magyar Külügyi Intézet https://share.google/polbVkN9ZFt24BaKV

Stop the press everyone, the Hungarian Institute of International Affairs has unequivocally proven that only one IAF plane was shot down....despite evidence showing at least 4 aircraft. That's it, the PAF are a bunch of liars and India won the war, no need to argue any further.

 

[Watandar]

Hungarians want to sell to India and are performing the first step of buttering up Indians and assisting Modi online commandos.

 

[Liquidator]

congratulations

Hopefully Indians will now go the Hungary and when they get racially abused they can cry "but saar I'm indian not Pakistani"...

 

[ety]

If that the case the article puts Chinese AD systems, then why are these SAM systems selling like hot cakes now ? Latest, Azerbaijan and Egypt have just bought HQ 9BE. Possibly, Iran too ?

 

[Bilal]

If that the case the article puts Chinese AD systems, then why are these SAM systems selling like hot cakes now ? Latest, Azerbaijan and Egypt have just bought HQ 9BE. Possibly, Iran too ?

They keep buying unknown “white” analyst to stroke their egos. While all the major ones have demolished it.

They are hurt, even after all this time the hurt just don’t go away.

 

[aurelianpilled]

"It was seven but now it is eight because the one that was sort of shot down is now abandoned." wtf

Plus, I think we have discussed this scenario here as well... I think it was the 4th Rafale?? What was it? I don't remember that whole thing...

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[gamaji]

@arsalan345

I believe they want another conflict just because of the fighter jets drama.

Why? To get another beating?

Regards

No, to shoot down Pakistani planes. Same delusions as they had before 7 May 2025.

 

[arsalan345]

"It was seven but now it is eight because the one that was sort of shot down is now abandoned." wtf

Plus, I think we have discussed this scenario here as well... I think it was the 4th Rafale?? What was it? I don't remember that whole thing...

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He adds new stuff each time, because he is getting reports through CIA. It's so humiliating for any country. i feel sorry for india. BJP has destroyed indian image all over the world.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Everyone is an expert... and the deduction for India... lose on the battlefield and win optics. Isn't that what this word salad is purporting?
I don't know what is left for Modi after literally bear hugging almost the entire global leadership to the point of utter repugnance... what else is on offer?

 

[Distant_Observer]

He adds new stuff each time, because he is getting reports through CIA. It's so humiliating for any country. i feel sorry for india. BJP has destroyed indian image all over the world.

India attacking Pakistan was the best thing that could have happened.

balakot 2019 was harmless, everyone brushed it off. This one, killing children out of ragebait from getting clapped in kashmir and they risked a nuclear war. This one left a sour taste in many mouths.

I always knew Modi was a fool.

 

[Dalit]

If that the case the article puts Chinese AD systems, then why are these SAM systems selling like hot cakes now ? Latest, Azerbaijan and Egypt have just bought HQ 9BE. Possibly, Iran too ?

Hungarians and their illogical BS. Like members have said, every Tom, Dick and Vishnu is nowadays an expert.

 

[NA71]

He adds new stuff each time, because he is getting reports through CIA. It's so humiliating for any country. i feel sorry for india. BJP has destroyed indian image all over the world.

No new reports it was all FM Asim Munir briefings when he invited FM on Lunch couples of months back .....all the briefing details must have been verified by CIA.....and very next day he first broke the news of 5 jets got down......its now the same statement he has repeated over 70 times.....with modified version from 5 to 8 jets.....he will not go beyond that......but may be he will give a new twist ....start mentioning 8 jets and one S-400 ....just wait....

 

[Master Chief]

He adds new stuff each time, because he is getting reports through CIA. It's so humiliating for any country. i feel sorry for india. BJP has destroyed indian image all over the world.

Is it this?

Trump is much smarter than many of us think.

He hasn't turned every screw on India that he can yet. We know he wants some trade deal or some market preference or perhaps to sell some weapons to India. Some have suggested he wants access to Indian agriculture markets that are currently fiercely protected by Delhi.

I wonder if he is indulging in Chinese water torture until he gets his way.

A little extra squeeze each passing week, until Modi gets the message.

It's fascinating to watch.