Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Master Chief said:
I am also now wondering if KSA just might have applied some quiet economic leverage on Modi to dissuade his plans. Pure speculation, but doesn't it seem odd that the qom to our east who was itching for another confrontation suddenly shied away? Yes there are multiple other reasons that seem genuinely evidenced - missile test as you said, poor outcome of recent military exercises, geopolitical distractions - but something is odd about their climbdown.

I suppose there is still time for them to "uncover a link to Pakistan".
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If true, all it did was kick the can further down the road.......a longer delay only.
it does not really benefit us, as the enemy will use all this time to re-arm and re-stock and re-strategize and come harder next time.

the reality is, that ultimately Ghazwa E Hind must happen, sooner or later. Some say we're only in year 4 of the 7 yr war. Kinda makes sense. However, next battles will be more bloody and deadly, that's for sure, whenever it happens but it definitely will happen
 
Master Chief said:
I am also now wondering if KSA just might have applied some quiet economic leverage on Modi to dissuade his plans. Pure speculation, but doesn't it seem odd that the qom to our east who was itching for another confrontation suddenly shied away? Yes there are multiple other reasons that seem genuinely evidenced - missile test as you said, poor outcome of recent military exercises, geopolitical distractions - but something is odd about their climbdown.

I suppose there is still time for them to "uncover a link to Pakistan".
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It could be the case with KSA but I don't think that would go as far as pulling some economic leverage on India (but that's just what I think)

I think the more probable explanation is that India was under threat of 3 fronts. They have conducted multiple military exercises and on all 3 fronts. They have upgraded and made operational the Nyoma AB in Eastern Ladakh (next to Askai Chin).

On top of that, their on going trade negotiations with US. Then their COAS complaining to local defense companies/suppliers about the "effeciency" of the tech and "supply delays" - I don't think KSA had to pull any kind of string - India is probably under resourced currently and under prepared to take on another conflict with Pakistan (provided our last response was timely done overnight within a few hours of their initial missile strikes and it was grossly disproportionate to India's initial strikes)
 
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PK781 said:
If true, all it did was kick the can further down the road.......a longer delay only.
it does not really benefit us, as the enemy will use all this time to re-arm and re-stock and re-strategize and come harder next time.

the reality is, that ultimately Ghazwa E Hind must happen, sooner or later. Some say we're only in year 4 of the 7 yr war. Kinda makes sense. However, next battles will be more bloody and deadly, that's for sure, whenever it happens but it definitely will happen
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I think the delay will help Pakistan more than Bharat. The way the Pak MIC is progressing it can offset the Bharati procurements. Not to mention the close strategic cooperation with China and Turkey to take the game farther away from Bharat. On top of it a final solution for Afghanistan appears to be nearer than ever....

As for Bharat, her MIC is in a bad shape, so more foreign purchases are required. It implies lower graded stuffs. China is also moving fast on the LAC to regain her lost lands to compensate for her lost glory during the century of humiliation. Nothing can incite more nationalistic fervors. And, 4K km long borders with BD can't be taken for granted......
 
Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
I think the delay will help Pakistan more than Bharat. The way the Pak MIC is progressing it can offset the Bharati procurements. Not to mention the close strategic cooperation with China and Turkey to take the game farther away from Bharat. On top of it a final solution for Afghanistan appears to be nearer than ever....

As for Bharat, her MIC is in a bad shape, so more foreign purchases are required. It implies lower graded stuffs. China is also moving fast on the LAC to regain her lost lands to compensate for her lost glory during the century of humiliation. Nothing can incite more nationalistic fervors. And, 4K km long borders with BD can't be taken for granted......
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Yes, the Siliguri Corridor can be choked rather easily, and even if it doesn't end up with a Greater Bangladesh it doesn't matter as much as the wartime attention and resource load it creates right off th bat. China has already been very aggressive with the LAC around Askai Chin/Ladakh - they have created a ~ 450 km² buffer zone that is inside Indian held territory while Chinese are right on the LAC. The best military option available to India for now is the proxy war via Afghanistan - they'll probably get more directly aggressive once they have the necessary contingencies in place and the resource/supply has been largely dealt with.

Moreover their next state elections are around March/April next year and includes the states of Assam and West Bengal (among a couple of other Southern States as well) - so that could be another time period for their warmongering politics (which actually suits them better with our Western Front cleared of snow in most areas providing the T's more freedom of movement for infiltration)
 
Therefore they did not expect Pakistan to have this capability when India attacked. After pulling the use of F16s against India, they expected Pakistan to capitulate.

What a dirty game they all played. China stood by Pakistan, a true brother indeed.

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hnn said:
Yes, the Siliguri Corridor can be choked rather easily, and even if it doesn't end up with a Greater Bangladesh it doesn't matter as much as the wartime attention and resource load it creates right off th bat. China has already been very aggressive with the LAC around Askai Chin/Ladakh - they have created a ~ 450 km² buffer zone that is inside Indian held territory while Chinese are right on the LAC. The best military option available to India for now is the proxy war via Afghanistan - they'll probably get more directly aggressive once they have the necessary contingencies in place and the resource/supply has been largely dealt with.

Moreover their next state elections are around March/April next year and includes the states of Assam and West Bengal (among a couple of other Southern States as well) - so that could be another time period for their warmongering politics (which actually suits them better with our Western Front cleared of snow in most areas providing the T's more freedom of movement for infiltration)
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With Bangladesh already stopping overland road, rail, and water way transit of Indian freight ( both civilian and military), the Siliguri corridor is already choked, like it was from mid 1965-1969. Bangladesh is still allowing overflights but that could change. The map below starkly reveals India's logistical challenge 1763549030021.png
 
Distant_Observer said:
Therefore they did not expect Pakistan to have this capability when India attacked. After pulling the use of F16s against India, they expected Pakistan to capitulate.

What a dirty game they all played. China stood by Pakistan, a true brother indeed.

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This document says "Pakistan's military success over India"

But as per indians they destroyed 1 million F16s in that hanger in Jacobabad airbase so how can Pakistan win this conflict?
 
Baibers_1260 said:
With Bangladesh already stopping overland road, rail, and water way transit of Indian freight ( both civilian and military), the Siliguri corridor is already choked, like it was from mid 1965-1969. Bangladesh is still allowing overflights but that could change. The map below starkly reveals India's logistical challenge View attachment 160439
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Yes, and 3 fronts could go horribly wrong for India given that 2 out the 3 militaries it'll be up against are Tier 1 militaries and 3rd one is still a higher tier than their new found friends in Afghanistan.
 
so, 100 F1 and F2 with a squadron of J10, to secure Chicken neck control!

in other words, can at least ensure, no clear Ind. control!

one has to wonder, if Bangladesh maintain independent foreign policy, would Ind. continue to exist in next 5 to 7 years (hypothetical not antithetical)

I think, yes only if, ind does very heavy strategic investment in Bengal

otherwise it is game over!
 
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The 2025 Report to US Congress of the U.S.-CHINA ECONOMIC AND SECURITY REVIEW COMMISSION mentions the 4 day Indo-Pak clash in May as "Pakistan's millitary success." It also highlights China's expanding Millitary cooperation with Pakistan and growing security tensions with India.


and with this lets close the thread
 

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The 2025 Report to US Congress of the U.S.-CHINA ECONOMIC AND SECURITY REVIEW COMMISSION mentions the 4 day Indo-Pak clash in May as "Pakistan's millitary success." It also highlights China's expanding Millitary cooperation with Pakistan and growing security tensions with India.


and with this lets close the thread
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this report mentioned the downing of three indian jets....which ALL MAY NOT have been rafales...
Meaning the claim of no rafales lost is wrong too
 
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Yes that's great points right there!

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