Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hasssanali8998]

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Been seeing this around. Would love a deeper insight on more knowledgeable members. Crash site is apparently stated as Dinga

i just lost 10 iq points . pls use a spoiler next time

 

[Toxic]

Hardly - their rockets regularly put systems in space. Used fairly advanced cryogenics which Pakistanis cannot even find a single local expert for.

I find it funny tbh, there are a lot of things to make fun of Indians for ISRO definitely isn't one of them.

 

[Toxic]

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i just lost 10 iq points . pls use a spoiler next time

I unfortunately have encountered this guy on Reddit the dude is generally retarded even by Indian Nationalist standards.

Half of his "evidence" Is just misidentifying random drone debris, he is genuinely convinced a AWACS went down in dinga, he is so lost in the sauce that he hasn't stopped to ponder why a AWACS would be flying over dinga just 110km from the border especially where there is the threat of S400s, or if 5 fighters were shot down why has Martin Baker not reported a single ejection or why there has not been a single wreckage seen.

The funny thing is that he even shared me a video of a "PAF JF-17 pilot ejecting and parachuting down" (The Same video fauje@t fanboy accounts were saying was Shivangi Singh ejecting) yet can't explain why MB has updated there website or socials dispite them doing so for Indian jets.

@Zephyrus

 

[Ibbi32]

I find it funny tbh, there are a lot of things to make fun of Indians for ISRO definitely isn't one of them.

Makes everything that happened to suparco even more heartbreaking for me. We couldve been so great

 

[ZSBD]

It's unbelievable that eight months later they're seriously analyzing the "wreckage" of the F-16s and claiming they shot down at least six aircraft. I suspect that ten years from now they'll be claiming to have shot down all of the Pakistani Air Force's aircraft and making at least five Bollywood movies based on that.

 

[Maarkhoor]

It's unbelievable that eight months later they're seriously analyzing the "wreckage" of the F-16s and claiming they shot down at least six aircraft. I suspect that ten years from now they'll be claiming to have shot down all of the Pakistani Air Force's aircraft and making at least five Bollywood movies based on that.

Only they manage to hit hanger with large aircraft which is repaired and back to service.

One more thing just like they shoot down their SAR helicopter during clashes in 2019 this time also they have made same blunder but they kept mum and I have profs for that need permission from someone to publish it I assume they have soot down their own fighter jet.

 

[Sparten]

Hardly - their rockets regularly put systems in space. Used fairly advanced cryogenics which Pakistanis cannot even find a single local expert for.

ISRO is pretty impressive, and I wish we had something like that, but cryogenic are an 80 year old technology.

 

[Sparten]

In the same video, the anchor claimed that cryogenic engines were being imported from Russia, and that due to the current situation there, deliveries were not possible. As a result, they had to rely on the domestically developed PSLV, following which two consecutive launches failed. Since it is well known that both launch vehicles and ballistic missiles rely on similar inertial navigation principles, this raises a legitimate question: if these launch vehicles are experiencing failures, could the same issues also affect a nuclear-capable MIRV ICBM?

No. BM and SLV are related but distinct.

 

[Sparten]

Not sure how any of this is related - the drones story makes little sense when there is an actual story of Indian troops raising alarm at Jupiter and Venus along the LAC and saying these were drones.

These days Jupiter or Capella may be making their imagination run wild.

PSLV failures arent directly linked to ICBM and rare failures for what is an organization(ISRO) with likely the best R&D record in the subcontinent.

Both side re using drones to test AD/identify local positions. We have been using them since middle of last decade and them for about 5 years.

 

[Baibers_1260]

It's unbelievable that eight months later they're seriously analyzing the "wreckage" of the F-16s and claiming they shot down at least six aircraft. I suspect that ten years from now they'll be claiming to have shot down all of the Pakistani Air Force's aircraft and making at least five Bollywood movies based on that.

Indians constantly re-write the history of wars they have fought ( and mostly lost ). The Bollywood movies are used to re-enforce their narrative.
While off topic it is interesting to compare the narrative India propagates about the wars it has fought with Pakistan and with China. The Indian narrative on the conflicts with Pakistan are well known. According to that narrative India never lost territory to Pakistan and won every single battle. The 1947-49 Kashmir war is best forgotten as is the war on the Kashmir front in 1971. The 1965 war is also a taboo subject.
The Sino-Indian wars are in a different league.
A stark example is the Galwan skirmish of June 2020. That incident was the single largest loss of troops the Indian Army suffered at the hands of the PLA since the 1967 Nathu La showdown.
Facts :

• 20 Indian soldiers including a colonel were killed by the PLA. The soldiers died from kinetic blows delivered using clubs and sticks,
• 4 Chinese soldiers were killed , Two were killed in a surprise attack by Indian troops while they slept and two died from exposure to the icy waters of the Galwan river. These soldiers were named and honored as heroes
• 110 Indian soldiers were captured and displayed by Chinese PLA troops. This was the largest surrender of Indian troops to the PLA since the 1962 war.
• The PLA returned the bodies of the Indian soldiers killed and returned the prisoners after releasing video footage of their capture.
• PLA established control over an additional 1100 sq.km of territory re-enforcing their claim to the 1959 border.

Indian version:
40 Chinese troops were killed by the Indian Army and India expelled the PLA from the Galwan valley. No bodies were displayed or returned to the PLA. There is clear satellite imagery showing newly built structures along the Pangong lake showing control of the area by the PLA. That "satellite imagery " is rarely discussed by Indian X bots.

Yet 1.45 billion Indians believe in a resounding military victory over the PLA in the Galwan valley.
The Indian propaganda against China is interesting:
Only ONE Bollywood movie has been made about the Sino-Indian conflict ( Haqeeqat 1963), and ironically that is the only Indian war movie that is somewhat accurate because it does implicitly concede an overall defeat by India. The movie depicts heroic "to the last man, last bullet" stands by Indian troops, which is quite contrary to the facts. The Chinese are depicted as scheming, ruthless and vicious and one scene shows Chinese troops molesting Ladakhi women.
Fact: China captured and retained 38,000 sq.km of territory and thousands of prisoners . No civilian casualties or atrocities have been reported and China obeyed the Geneva convention in the treatment of prisoners.

Yet after Haqeeqat no more movies have been made on the Sino-Indian conflict and for a very good reason.
While the Indian Armed forces have had the maximum humiliation and losses at the hands of the Chinese PLA, the Chinese-Indian enmity does not resonate as a generational civilizational cultural war of revenge in the psyche of the warped Hindutva mind. This despite the fact that China occupies Mount Kailash, a fact which is rarely mentioned or acknowledged by Hindutva propagandists. No Hindutva zealot talks about "liberating " Mount Kailash and avenging its desecration.
A secular Indian historian said that Indians will never view China as an enemy because the Chinese never ruled over India like the "Muslims " did regardless of the geo-political realities today. The Sino-Indian conflict does not factor in the domestic politics like the India-Pakistan conflict which is viewed by the Hindutva mindset as a war fought against Muslims, both on the external front as well as internally against Indian Muslims.

Indian bots rarely frequent Chinese forums and there are no Chinese journalists invited to the abusive screaming TV "talk shows" by Arnab Goswamy and Major Gaurav Arya.

There is no scope for logic and reason with the current twisted Hindutva mindset.
While China will never again fight a large scale war with India, the fate of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh is sealed. A devastating war of mutual destruction is imminent and inevitable.

 

[Maarkhoor]

No. BM and SLV are related but distinct.

Bro I check with retired eng who worked on our system he confirm that ICBM using same system which were build for satellite launch vehicles.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Bro I check with retired eng who worked on our system he confirm that ICBM using same system which were build for satellite launch vehicles.

Plus stage separation mech is 100% same in B.M and Satellite launch vehicles and in a recent two tests by India not only they suffer navigational issues but also suffer failures during stage separations.

 

[side-winder]

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Been seeing this around. Would love a deeper insight on more knowledgeable members. Crash site is apparently stated as Dinga

Bhai you only need a careful look before you can tell it just from the visual comparison that it no where looks like an F-16 altimeter. Pitty at the desperation of these retarded delulus.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Bhai you only need a careful look before you can tell it just from the visual comparison that it no where looks like an F-16 altimeter. Pitty at the desperation of these retarded delulus.

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They took these pictures from cd-70 accident? 20 years back F-16 got MLU upgrades and all of our F-16 have no meters like that.

 

[side-winder]

Arey bas kar do yar. Roz aik General media pe aa ky Sindoor Sindoor karna shuru kar deta he. So worried about PR? Eh?