Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
so whats the suggested solution?


answer: More NOTAM
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Yes - more NOTAMs, they will help keep everyone else safe it seems.

To be fair, have the IAF tried to up their training regime, and just found out the organisation cannot stretch to the new demands on its flying resources?
 
Be dazzled said:
Seems either an MKI or a Fulcrum. They just can't fly in interference.
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Or more like, they are now declaring aircraft losses from Sindoor in a "round about way" so that they can get the figures on their inventory to all line up ? ( just a thought ).


"Unknown electronic interference.. omg.. lol ."
 
Ali_Baba said:
Or more like, they are now declaring aircraft losses from Sindoor in a "round about way" so that they can get the figures on their inventory to all line up ? ( just a thought ).
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nah the videos are from today , the crashes in the forest might be but why would you do it after a crash already happened
 
Ali_Baba said:
Or more like, they are now declaring aircraft losses from Sindoor in a "round about way" so that they can get the figures on their inventory to all line up ? ( just a thought ).
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Quite possible. Accommodation of undisclosed attrition is a thing after all.
 
Baibers_1260 said:
Realistically: It's not just 10 years but more like 79 years. Every government and political party in power in India since 1947 has game planned a military action against Pakistan and Bangladesh. The sole objective has been to annex Pakistan and Bangladesh. To reconstitute India as it was defined before 1947 is a long term strategic ideologically driven strategy of every government in power in India. The ideological vision of the ruling political establishments have varied over the years but the objective remains the same.
Let's examine WHY India wants the annexation of Pakistan:
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  • The centrist leftist secular establishment ( essentially the Congress backed by the Communist Party of India and other left wing parties ) that ruled India for decades viewed (and still views) Pakistan and Bangladesh as artificial colonial creations, and illegal entities that seceded as part of a foreign conspiracy . For the Congress and left wing parties ( whatever is left of them) view the existence of Pakistan and Bangladesh as a serious challenge to India's long term internal stability where the right-wing fundamentalists use the creation of Pakistan & Bangladesh to undermine India's "secular character " and ferment violence, and establish a fascist regime ( which happened anyhow)the . Annexation of Pakistan & Bangladesh will remove this factor, and the addition of 400 million Muslims which would be a majority in key provinces would ensure a secular national government forever. Additionally the territories annexed would restore India's traditional access to both Central Asia & South East Asia and make India the dominant power in both the Middle East and Far East . The Congress regime made a attempt to annex Pakistan during Operation Brass Tacks in 1987. This was the largest mobilization the Indian Armed Forces have ever done, exceeding all other mobilizations including the two wars of 1965 and 1971.
  • The right wing fundamentalist RSS-VHP Hindutva regime that has ruled India in two phases, and has currently been in power for over a decade has an entirely different reason for the annexation of Pakistan and Bangladesh . Like it's left wing counterpart it wants a "united India" or Akhand Bharat based not only on the borders as it was prior to 1947 but territories beyond including Afghanistan,Iran & Myanmar .The RSS-VHP wants the territory of Pakistan but not the people basically Muslims. The RSS-VHP envision stability not through democracy and secularism but by the establishment of a Hindu theocracy and the complete elimination of Muslims both within India's current borders and in the territories India will conquer. Short term the existence of Pakistan serves the political interests of the Hindutva regime to persecute Muslims questioning their right to live in India and win elections against the left-wing centrist secular alliance. The tensions with Pakistan have been a great asset to the rise of Hindutva ideology in India. Like the Congress regime the RSS-VHP has long awaited and planned a massive war against Pakistan. The Hindutva ideologues have also planned the largest holocaust in human history to eliminate 600 million Muslims from the subcontinent using nuclear, chemical & biological weapons and concentration camps, dwarfing the Mongol effort.
So there we have it. Whether it is Congress or BJP Pakistan and Bangladesh are doomed to an eternal existential war. The options are nuclear martyrdom or slavery and slow extermination. There is a chance ( small one) that India will get into a war with China and the resulting defeat will cause India to break up. However Indians are too afraid of China to fight it.

At this point this expectation is unrealistic. The media hype created makes war inevitable.
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Once again, crystallised and distilled content, clearing away the chaff and bang on the mark.

It really is this simple.

Congress and RSS are two sides of the same coin.

They simply do not tolerate Pakistan's right to exist as a sovereign nation.

They agree with one another that the creation of Pakistan was as a result of "partition" (mythical and erroneous terminology) of some land that was somehow destined to be a hindu qom, that the events of 1947 were a "trauma" - not just the actual bloodshed of the period, which we of course agree on, but the actual concept of some upstart second nation state being birthed from the British colonial era in lands that Delhi believes are rightly theirs. This caused deep irreperable trauma to their psyche as a nation.

To further clarify, NO UNIFIED AND INDEPENDENT HINDU NATION STATE EXISTED across the subcontinent at the time when the British arrived as a military conqueror at the Battle of Plassy in the 18th Century (defeating a powerful muslim nawab, no less!). Indeed, even the Hindu fiefdoms were not united. Hindu led city states deployed Muslim armies against Muslim city states with Hindu armies! The warped conceptualisation to justify any solitary, united "India" that is perpetually afforded airtime by both Congress and RSS is fundamentally flawed and baseless.

Pakistan shall endure. We will preserve our south Asian legacy and heritage. Hindutva and the Talibs will try to rewrite the narrative to suit their interests. But they cannot defeat an idea.
 
flyingorca said:
That picture is from 2024 Mki mirage crash.
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Actually 2023. Stupid IAF Mirage 2k and SU30 MKI hugged mid-air because again IAF is awesome in bollywood and just kinda stupid IRL...

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Indian Air Force Sukhoi-30 and Mirage 2000 collided midair

The accident involved a Russian made Sukhoi-30 and a French-made Mirage-2000.
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Areesh said:
Pakistan has to fight these kind of people when it goes to war 😭😭

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my favorite part of the clash was Indians on reddit seeing our memes, laughing and and then saying how we were just normal like them , this is how much garbage they have been fed about us , also then other Indian getting angry at those Indians that pointed these out and accusing them of being traitors or being responsible for the deaths in pahalgam attack
 
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