The earlier Twitter post about this report shared in this thread has a user asking Grok for counter check, and Grok's reply was that the report is true and mentions 1 Rafale being shot down
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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The earlier Twitter post about this report shared in this thread has a user asking Grok for counter check, and Grok's reply was that the report is true and mentions 1 Rafale being shot down
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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worth zero cents, IMHO!
we were able to fly jets in S400 effective range, thats enough for me!
BTW, Russia shoots down Ukrainian short range ballistic missiles regularly..
they also could not show images of shot down F1 and F2s..
that is enough of a reason to believe, we held a upper hand and did not want escalation
Brahmos is the biggest Ind. asset in conventional war!
they gave it away
hasssanali8998
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grok is broken too , refuses to acknowledge Indian loses on anything .
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
The report submitted to Congress also highlighted China’s role in the conflict, saying that it drew global attention as “Pakistan’s military relied upon Chinese weaponry and reportedly leveraged Chinese intelligence”.
It also cited New Delhi’s claims of China helping Pakistan with “live inputs on Indian military positions throughout the crisis”, adding that “Pakistan denied these allegations, and China neither confirmed nor denied its degree of involvement”.
According to the report, China expanded its military cooperation with Pakistan in 2025, “compounding its own security tensions with India”.
In November and December 2024, China and Pakistan held the three-week Warrior-VIII counter-terrorism drills, and in February this year, China’s navy participated in Pakistan’s multinational AMAN drills, the report recalled, adding that these exercises highlighted “growing defence cooperation” between the two countries.
“India’s commentators viewed the drills as losses in their relationship with China and as direct security threats to its territorial positions,” the report said.
It also cited New Delhi’s claims of China helping Pakistan with “live inputs on Indian military positions throughout the crisis”, adding that “Pakistan denied these allegations, and China neither confirmed nor denied its degree of involvement”.
According to the report, China expanded its military cooperation with Pakistan in 2025, “compounding its own security tensions with India”.
In November and December 2024, China and Pakistan held the three-week Warrior-VIII counter-terrorism drills, and in February this year, China’s navy participated in Pakistan’s multinational AMAN drills, the report recalled, adding that these exercises highlighted “growing defence cooperation” between the two countries.
“India’s commentators viewed the drills as losses in their relationship with China and as direct security threats to its territorial positions,” the report said.
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
The report submitted to Congress also highlighted China’s role in the conflict, saying that it drew global attention as “Pakistan’s military relied upon Chinese weaponry and reportedly leveraged Chinese intelligence”.
It also cited New Delhi’s claims of China helping Pakistan with “live inputs on Indian military positions throughout the crisis”, adding that “Pakistan denied these allegations, and China neither confirmed nor denied its degree of involvement”.
According to the report, China expanded its military cooperation with Pakistan in 2025, “compounding its own security tensions with India”.
In November and December 2024, China and Pakistan held the three-week Warrior-VIII counter-terrorism drills, and in February this year, China’s navy participated in Pakistan’s multinational AMAN drills, the report recalled, adding that these exercises highlighted “growing defence cooperation” between the two countries.
“India’s commentators viewed the drills as losses in their relationship with China and as direct security threats to its territorial positions,” the report said.
It also cited New Delhi’s claims of China helping Pakistan with “live inputs on Indian military positions throughout the crisis”, adding that “Pakistan denied these allegations, and China neither confirmed nor denied its degree of involvement”.
According to the report, China expanded its military cooperation with Pakistan in 2025, “compounding its own security tensions with India”.
In November and December 2024, China and Pakistan held the three-week Warrior-VIII counter-terrorism drills, and in February this year, China’s navy participated in Pakistan’s multinational AMAN drills, the report recalled, adding that these exercises highlighted “growing defence cooperation” between the two countries.
“India’s commentators viewed the drills as losses in their relationship with China and as direct security threats to its territorial positions,” the report said.
Fatman17
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A report submitted to the US Congress has mentioned Pakistan’s “military success” over India during the four-day conflict in May this year.
“Pakistan’s military success over India in its four-day clash showcased Chinese weaponry,” said a report submitted to the US Congress on Tuesday by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, formed to report on the national security implications of the bilateral trade and economic relationship between the US and China.
Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1956030
“Pakistan’s military success over India in its four-day clash showcased Chinese weaponry,” said a report submitted to the US Congress on Tuesday by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, formed to report on the national security implications of the bilateral trade and economic relationship between the US and China.
Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1956030
maverick
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Report submitted to US Congress mentions Pakistan’s ‘military success’ over India during May conflict
The report, centred on China, claims Beijing used May conflict to "test and promote its own defence capabilities".
www.dawn.com
After all, trump statements have been validated by USA intel community with submission of this report.
cant wait for Godi media to cry river over it..., will cry vengeance with Sindoor 2.0. and i bet they will get more weapons before trying their misadventure again.
They will be humiliated the third time and hopefully will lose a lot of land this time to Pakistan.
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Maarkhoor
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They are put their head down where sun never shine.Report submitted to US Congress mentions Pakistan’s ‘military success’ over India during May conflict
The report, centred on China, claims Beijing used May conflict to "test and promote its own defence capabilities".www.dawn.com
After all, trump statements have been validated by USA intel community with submission of this report.
cant wait for Godi media to cry river over it..., will cry vengeance with Sindoor 2.0. and i bet they will get more weapons before trying their misadventure again.
They will be humiliated the third time and hopefully will lose a lot of land this time to Pakistan.
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NA71
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Another news
defencesecurityasia.com
Pakistan’s First-Ever 5,500km ICBM Looms: US Intelligence Indicates Missile That Could Reach Israel and Reshape Middle East Deterrence - Defence Security Asia
US intelligence warns Pakistan may be preparing a 5,500km ICBM test capable of reaching Israel, signalling a major shift in regional deterrence and Middle East nuclear dynamics.
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Maarkhoor
Snake Eater
Update: as per reports Modi surrendered in front of Trump now Yankee will take their side as suspected.Another news
Pakistan’s First-Ever 5,500km ICBM Looms: US Intelligence Indicates Missile That Could Reach Israel and Reshape Middle East Deterrence - Defence Security Asia
US intelligence warns Pakistan may be preparing a 5,500km ICBM test capable of reaching Israel, signalling a major shift in regional deterrence and Middle East nuclear dynamics.
0% tariff on US imports. Kasan ka janaza Nikal diya Modi ney....
So expect such news where US / Uncle sam verbally start punishing us instead of Modi.
Since Modi bow down....
Aoo janab tashreef hazir hai.
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NA71
Trusted Member
Bikul sahi....it was expected well .....the shift of US narrative....but the damage has done ....if US changes course to India....it will only weaken US position.....
ICBM or Hypersonic whatever it could be .....only way move forward in this wild world.
Pakistan Space Agency
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US report mentions Pakistan’s ‘military success’ over India in May conflict
- Pakistan used Chinese weapons to down French Rafale fighter jets used by India, says report submitted to US Congress
Published November 19, 2025
A report submitted to the US Congress has mentioned Pakistan’s “military success” over India during the four-day conflict in May this year, stating that Pakistan used Chinese weapons to down French Rafale fighter jets used by India.
“Pakistan’s military success over India in its four-day clash showcased Chinese weaponry,” read the report by the United States–China Economic and Security Review Commission of the US government legislative branch.
The May conflict, the worst clash between the two nuclear-armed neighbours in decades, was triggered by an attack on tourists in Indian Illegally Occupied Kashmir, which New Delhi blamed on Pakistan without presenting evidence. Islamabad rejected the allegation, calling India’s account “replete with fabrications”.
India then launched strikes inside Pakistan, triggering four days of intense cross-border conflict that killed at least 70 people.
Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said Pakistan shot down six Indian fighter jets in response to Indian missile attacks. Islamabad has denied any losses of its planes during the clash.
The two countries agreed to a ceasefire brokered by US President Donald Trump who says seven “brand new, beautiful planes” were shot down during the escalation.
“The PLA’s [People’s Liberation Army of China] fighter jets and air-to-air missiles received their first combat use as Pakistani forces successfully flew Chinese-made fighters during a four-day conflict with India.
“This marks the first known instance of these systems being tested in actual combat, providing the PLA valuable data and potentially boosting the credibility of China’s defense exports,” the US report read.
As Pakistan’s largest defense supplier, China provided approximately 82% of the country’s arms imports from 2019 to 2023, it claimed.
Auqab13
Registered Member
Theyre also carefully watching,
This is a congressional report from a few months ago
This is a congressional report from a few months ago
Meengla
Elite Member
If Pakistan was indeed humiliated by India in the May 2025 conflict, then you wouldn't have seen reports like these and many diplomatic and military engagements since May 2025.
Considering Pakistan's bad governance and political chaos, not too bad for the 'FA Pass' Generals of Pakistan who only worry about DHA properties!
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