Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hasssanali8998]

I’d much rather be an Imature clown than an Indian clown too ashamed to admit it and sneak pushing Indian narratives instead as a ‘neutral’, ‘none south Asian’ of course.

ffs he is not an indian yaar

 

[rafale]

Who are you and where did you learn this word ' Indian ' ?.......I coined this word a decade ago but never used it here

i never intended to use it too.......but May 7th showed me how vile these indians are....the more of them are dead or insulted, the better for all i could care. If you would have noticed, i rarely if ever quote any Indian poster here...because it doesn't matter what shit they say.


I am a industrial automation and controls systems engineer by day and PDF learner/contributor by night.

 

[kimjongun]

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The F1 doesn't reach that far, and I guess the F2 probably doesn't either? Now the question is, then what we have used to hit Subroto Park Air Force Station from such a long distance on May 10? and if one check the distances, this part is way out of range from the Pakistan border for the F1, and most likely even for the F2, I guess.

There might be the use of the shaheen 1 or fatah 4/babur...it still a theory from my side...but there are couple of images from india showing quite large projectiles being shot and wreckages of them...i saw a pic of an indian guy standing next to what looked like the abdali(old version) or some other missile...had a large no of fins...could be fake tho...found the pic:

 

[flyingorca]

Exactly, if India doesn't pays a price of killing innocent Pakistanis equally and things don't escalate to full scale war they will keep on doing this, war is the only solution, than come what may.

India had perfect opportunities when some of bases were temporarily out of action to come at us again but they haven't. They know the next response from pakistan would be much more severe. They conducted 100s of drills exercises Notom threats etc but it turned out to be all talk no action.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

There might be the use of the shaheen 1 or fatah 4/babur...it still a theory from my side...but there are couple of images from india showing quite large projectiles being shot and wreckages of them...i saw a pic of an indian guy standing next to what looked like the abdali(old version) or some other missile...had a large no of fins...could be fake tho...found the pic:
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I am no expert in recognizing missiles. But so far no news fron anyone regarding even F2 use let alone big missile

 

[PakShaheen_79]

@side-winder @HemlockKhalid/AeronautIR from what i read here i observed that ALCM is more difficult to intercept than SSM?
Also, when on May 7, we were ready and IAF came to strike our 9 locations, first i heard that 2 were hit by ALCM and other 7 sites by SSM. if so, why we have zero interception on the first 7 may attack? atleast we should have intercepted the SSM? or we were not ready? and after that we were ready and interception was good?

Yes. Only 2 locations (Bahawalpur and Muridke) were hit by IAF rest was all Indian Army ground launched weapons or UCAVs or LMs. This was revealed by Indian military later on as well. Now for intercepting the other 7; we must remember the locations of those targets. Very close of LoC hence any interception against a high moving target is not possible from such short distances in such a terrain.

 

[r3alist]

India had perfect opportunities when some of bases were temporarily out of action to come at us again but they haven't. They know the next response from pakistan would be much more severe. They conducted 100s of drills exercises Notom threats etc but it turned out to be all talk no action.

Another point being missed, India also accepted the ceasefire because Pakistan was compelled to react in kind, and no one globally really wanted to see that. India didn't just relent to trump tariff pressure, but from other places too

Therefore, Pakistan retained use of more strategic missiles, India showed its brahmos card, Pakistan walked away with air superiority.

 

[TAC]

That is my assessment too. It is narrower with no approach lights. It can definitely be used but not to the extent of normal take offs and landings. There are likely to be penalties.

What if more missiles were launched to truly degrade the runways then, that is likely to be have serious operational constraints.

Now into hypothetical scenarios. ‘What if’ s doesn’t make the precious little India achieved look any more impressive. ‘What if’ PAF had shot down more IAF top jets, would that also have ‘serious operational constraints’? especially given that they already got grounded for couple of days.
Perhaps discussing what actually happened is more sensible that ‘what if’ scenarios. Those possibilities could be endless.

 

[GoshtWalaPulao]

Saw this on twitter (an indian flexing that they were successful), look at the responses AI dishes out to these Indians.

 

[airhead]

Gi

choro na yaar, here fan boys will not rest unless you show them smoking S-400 or ground damage from India.....despite the fact months after, India is burying its dead and giving S-400 repairmen artificial limbs.........

So the smart it is enough to connect dots to reach a conclusion indirectly.

I mean, if my overhyped Rafale or J-35 was shot within one hour of opening air combat, i'd be pretty mad and comatose as well.

So i respect your and others actual experience and facts 100%, but lets not waste time on these own Pakistani fanboys who think that somehow India had the upper hand.


Further,
Those with actual knowledge......please mention the number of total Indian SOWs of all types that PAF tracked?

Out of those how many hit something on ground?

and out of those how many actually hit any thing valuable to cause long term financial and operation damage?

We took out at least 11% of their strike package within an hour........and if we count the much rumored further damaged Rafales/MKIs then the percentage is a nice double digit.guy

choro na yaar, here fan boys will not rest unless you show them smoking S-400 or ground damage from India.....despite the fact months after, India is burying its dead and giving S-400 repairmen artificial limbs.........

So the smart it is enough to connect dots to reach a conclusion indirectly.

I mean, if my overhyped Rafale or J-35 was shot within one hour of opening air combat, i'd be pretty mad and comatose as well.

So i respect your and others actual experience and facts 100%, but lets not waste time on these own Pakistani fanboys who think that somehow India had the upper hand.


Further,
Those with actual knowledge......please mention the number of total Indian SOWs of all types that PAF tracked?

Out of those how many hit something on ground?

and out of those how many actually hit any thing valuable to cause long term financial and operation damage?

We took out at least 11% of their strike package within an hour........and if we count the much rumored further damaged Rafales/MKIs then the percentage is a nice double digit.

guys this back and forth banter is ridiculous. At best this was an evenly poised battle with showing air to air superiority over Indian and India getting the better of Pakistan with damage to airfields and private property with Brahmos strikes ..yes u said it ..they showed embarrassing damage to sargodha, bholari and chaklala ..our prized air fields and we embarrassed the hell out of them by talking out 4 Rafales and 3 other a/c. We did not show any damage to their airfields with the exception of udhampur where a few buildings appear to be damaged but no other damage shown. S400 image wasn’t convincing and alarming why Paf would show tracks ??? All in all if you go by facts it was evenly poised

There were multiple blasts at Nur Khan. Apart from the C2 trailers there was also damage to a C130.

My number of 35-40 could be wrong but I also think it was more than 15. Let me compile a list, base wise and Target wise. Would put here once compiled.

Even if we assume the figure of 15 out of 35 hitting a/the target, it gives a success rate of 42%. Don’t know how would that figure in success or failure matrix, since there is no direct comparison to be made.

guys this back and forth banter is ridiculous. At best this was an evenly poised battle with PAF showing air to air superiority over IAF and India getting the better of Pakistan with damage to airfields and private property with Brahmos strikes ..yes I said it ..they showed embarrassing damage to sargodha, bholari and chaklala..our prized air fields and we embarrassed the hell out of them by taking out 4 Rafales and 3 other a/c. We did not show any damage to their airfields with the exception of udhampur where a few buildings appear to be damaged but no other damage shown. S400 image wasn’t convincing and alarming why Paf would show tracks ??? All in all if you go by facts it was evenly poised

 

[r3alist]

Gi



guys this back and forth banter is ridiculous. At best this was an evenly poised battle with PAF showing air to air superiority over IAF and India getting the better of Pakistan with damage to airfields and private property with Brahmos strikes ..yes I said it ..they showed embarrassing damage to sargodha, bholari and chaklala..our prized air fields and we embarrassed the hell out of them by taking out 4 Rafales and 3 other a/c. We did not show any damage to their airfields with the exception of udhampur where a few buildings appear to be damaged but no other damage shown. S400 image wasn’t convincing and alarming why Paf would show tracks ??? All in all if you go by facts it was evenly poised

You make it sound like a paper view event, like they just agreed to have a fight

No no, this was India attempting to flex it's superiority, and having to recalibrate massively within two hours, after threatening for two weeks.

Going up the escalation ladder is not really a flex.

Pakistan and china will suitably reinforce Pakistans air defence, so well done India for pushing that forward

 

[Vkdindian1]

...our deepest strike was in Subroto Park.....you can see whats located there!

Utter bull crap.

You claim to hit an Air Command centre in the heart of Delhi with no blast or sound?

For reference, look at blasts at Nur Khan and number of images and videos of the same.

 

[flyingorca]

Indians obsession with shooting down Fatah rockets . Here are some example of them referring to their own wreckage of S-125 missile as Fatah rockets.

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[Hayabusa]

...our deepest strike was in Subroto Park.....you can see whats located there!

This is interesting and would like to learn more on it.

Are there any ways you can hint us (without revealing any classified information) that this actually took place. Can't seem to find any possible wreckage images or any OSINT about it.

 

[Vkdindian1]

This is interesting and would like to learn more on it.

Are there any ways you can hint us (without revealing any classified information) that this actually took place. Can't seem to find any possible wreckage images or any OSINT about it.

He has been taking everyone for a ride with these cryptic one liners.

Hides behind the garb of revealing classified information.

Nothing came close to Delhi.