Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Master Chief]

Supporting a lie is lying. You claimed that Grok is lying. Hence the allegation. As a person you might be having high integrity but that seems to be missing from your efforts here. So, look inwards and don’t blame me.

Since you called Grok a joke, I asked ChatGPT. Here is the response from it. Problem with liers and dimwits (not you) is that once they have decided on a path, they think that is the only one. Rest all are not. So now I guess ChatGPT would also come under the wrath of this truth brigade.

**Confirmed or widely reported verified events**
• India conducted Operation Sindoor — precision strikes against terror infrastructure in Pakistan and Pakistan Azaad Kashmir on May 7–8, 2025. This was publicly acknowledged by Indian authorities. 
• Satellite imagery released (e.g., by Maxar) suggested damage to several Pakistani airbases, indicating that strikes inside Pakistan did take place — not Indian territory. 

What has not been reliably shown
• Pakistan striking Indian airbases like Amritsar or Srinagar
• Indiscriminate bombing / missiles across Indian territory
• Confirmed downing of Indian jets by Pakistan

Those claims have been debunked or lack evidence. 

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3. Disinformation and Propaganda Online

What we do know from fact-checking sources:

Many Pakistan-linked social media accounts circulated false visuals claiming attacks on India. 
Several of these used old clips or unrelated videos as “proof” of strikes.

This fits a broader pattern where both sides share competing narratives, often amplified on social media. Some posts are genuine eyewitness accounts, some are propaganda, and many are misattributed media.

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4. Are the Claims Logical?

If the post claims “Pakistan bombed Indian airbases”

Not logical or supported by evidence:

No credible satellite imagery of such damage has been released
No official Indian military or government has confirmed such an attack to be successful
Fact-checks show past claims referencing Indian Bases were false posts using unrelated videos/images 
Pakistan has not released any material to substantiate their claims of success against Indian installations

If the post suggests a broader conflict is ongoing

Yes — tensions did escalate between India and Pakistan around mid-2025, including:
• military actions
• suspension of treaties (e.g., Indus Water Treaty)
• diplomatic responses
But the scope and damage during that escalation are often exaggerated or spun differently on social media by various accounts. 

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5. Conclusion — Are the Claims Correct?

Claim. Likely Accuracy
Pakistan bombed Indian airbases
False / Debunked
Videos of attacks on Indian bases
Mostly fake or misattributed
Pakistan retaliated militarily
Some exchanges may have occurred, but not proven
India carried out precision strikes in Pakistan
Supported by official narrative

Bottom Line

It is not correct to claim that Pakistan bombed Indian Airbases or struck Indian territory, based on available verified information and fact checks. These kinds of posts are part of the information war that often accompanies real diplomatic and military tensions, and many visuals circulating online have been shown to be old, unrelated, AI modified or misleading.

Come on man. Apply some rationality.

No doubt some pictures will be modified but some will be true.

Sophia bajee has already confirmed the reality that strikes on ground targets occurred successfully.

Now the problem for Hindustan arises from mixed messaging from those in authority.

For example, Ajit Doval has directly contradicted Sophia Qureishi.

Your efforts are far better being directed at your own leadership because AT LEAST ONE SENIOR INDIAN OFFICIAL IS LYING TO THE INDIAN PUBLIC. Why constantly direct your ire towards Pakistanis for simply posting pictures on the internet, many of which are not manipulated? Do you upstanding citizens actually have the ability and/or the desire to question your leadership in your supposedly exemplary democratic nation state?

 

[Vkdindian1]

You probably also believe abhinondone also shot down an F-16, don’t you?

Probably? Here comes out your bias because you couldn’t find anything wrong with my comment.

Even though you spin yourself as some sort of a rational Indian, you are still plagued by the denialism and misinformation of your countrymen.

Which part of my comment was denial remains a mystery to me.

As I said, please sell this snake oil of massive success of BuM to your countrymen who are illiterate and looking for a sliver of hope.
Good luck.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Your efforts are far better being directed at your own leadership because AT LEAST ONE SENIOR INDIAN OFFICIAL IS LYING TO THE INDIAN PUBLIC. Why constantly direct your ire towards Pakistanis for simply posting pictures on the internet, many of which are not manipulated? Do you upstanding citizens actually have the ability and/or the desire to question your leadership in your supposedly exemplary democratic nation state?

It is not about YOUR or MY officials. Both have told lies and tried to hide facts. The job of ISPR is exactly that. To create a narrative.

It is facts presented by both the sides that matter.

So far Pakistan has produced solid proof of 4 IAF fighters shot down and IAF of having caused some damage at few of PAF installations.
Rest all is “trust me bro”.

I don’t believe AP Singh claiming to shoot down or destroy many aircraft in ground nor ISPR’s tall claims of successful attacks on 36 Indian bases.
Reason remains same.

 

[Be dazzled]

This is what Grok has to say about this image.

**Yes, the image in the X post appears to have been modified or generated using AI, or at least digitally altered to falsely depict damage.**

“Here's the evidence-based reasoning:

- The post claims to show recent satellite imagery of **damage** to India's Amritsar Air Force Station from Pakistani strikes, with specific coordinates.
- However, independent analyses from the 2025 India-Pakistan conflict (including Operation Sindoor) consistently show **no visible major damage** to Amritsar or other claimed Indian targets. Sources like The New York Times and Maxar/Planet Labs satellite imagery confirm no runway/hangar destruction on the Indian side, while Pakistani bases sustained verifiable hits.
- Pro-Pakistani social media during and after the conflict frequently circulated **doctored or AI-generated images** claiming Indian airbase damage (e.g., Pathankot, Udhampur, Jammu). Fact-checks from AFP, France24 Observers and many independent sources explicitly debunked similar altered satellite photos as manipulated—often by adding fake craters or burns to real base images.
- A direct reply in the thread accuses the poster of "editing pics with AI" and demands metadata/satellite source proof, which aligns with patterns of disinformation flagged in 2025-2026 reports. However, no metadata has been provided.
- No credible commercial satellite provider (e.g., Maxar, Planet, Sentinel) has released imagery matching this claimed damage for any Indian airbase in late 2025 or early 2026. Searches for recent authentic imagery show the bases intact.

This fits a broader trend of AI-assisted propaganda in the conflict, where fake visuals were used to exaggerate strikes on the opposing side. The image is likely not a genuine satellite photo but an edited or AI-enhanced fabrication for propaganda purposes.”

Many kids would now start calling Grok as Indian controlled but these attempts to create a false narrative of achieving stellar success can be dished out and consumed in-house. Outside world knows the realities and that includes loss of fighters by India.

But, isn’t narrative building for domestic audiences? India sold to its own about no loss of fighters and now Pakistan selling this junk to their own.

Grok saar plz help we are getting exposed save our us saar.

 

[MirageV3ff]

This is what Grok has to say about this image.

**Yes, the image in the X post appears to have been modified or generated using AI, or at least digitally altered to falsely depict damage.**

“Here's the evidence-based reasoning:

- The post claims to show recent satellite imagery of **damage** to India's Amritsar Air Force Station from Pakistani strikes, with specific coordinates.
- However, independent analyses from the 2025 India-Pakistan conflict (including Operation Sindoor) consistently show **no visible major damage** to Amritsar or other claimed Indian targets. Sources like The New York Times and Maxar/Planet Labs satellite imagery confirm no runway/hangar destruction on the Indian side, while Pakistani bases sustained verifiable hits.
- Pro-Pakistani social media during and after the conflict frequently circulated **doctored or AI-generated images** claiming Indian airbase damage (e.g., Pathankot, Udhampur, Jammu). Fact-checks from AFP, France24 Observers and many independent sources explicitly debunked similar altered satellite photos as manipulated—often by adding fake craters or burns to real base images.
- A direct reply in the thread accuses the poster of "editing pics with AI" and demands metadata/satellite source proof, which aligns with patterns of disinformation flagged in 2025-2026 reports. However, no metadata has been provided.
- No credible commercial satellite provider (e.g., Maxar, Planet, Sentinel) has released imagery matching this claimed damage for any Indian airbase in late 2025 or early 2026. Searches for recent authentic imagery show the bases intact.

This fits a broader trend of AI-assisted propaganda in the conflict, where fake visuals were used to exaggerate strikes on the opposing side. The image is likely not a genuine satellite photo but an edited or AI-enhanced fabrication for propaganda purposes.”

Many kids would now start calling Grok as Indian controlled but these attempts to create a false narrative of achieving stellar success can be dished out and consumed in-house. Outside world knows the realities and that includes loss of fighters by India.

But, isn’t narrative building for domestic audiences? India sold to its own about no loss of fighters and now Pakistan selling this junk to their own.

You could've used any AI detection software instead of asking grok. And I'd if using AI use multiple with the same prompt and question and look at their sources defined as well. Just saying "saar grok assist" isn't exactly helping your case unfortunately.

I do agree however there are doctored or misinterpreted images out there

 

[Vkdindian1]

You could've used any AI detection software instead of asking grok.

Main reason for using Grok was because it is embedded with X and easier to use. I asked same thing from ChatGPT. Answer is given in my previous posts.

Most assistants are likely to give similar response because all these X accounts have mixed doctored images with few undoctored ones. That itself raises a red flag. Many of these claim some place but are from a different place. That indicates poor comprehension and analysis capability of that person. Again a red flag. There are many other issues that are likely to not allow credence to these amateur efforts.

That’s why BDA has a certain process that brings credibility to it. None of these seem to be able to meet any of those criteria.

The reason for using AI tools was to bring in neutrality. Otherwise, it was my assessment too.

These AI tools are heartless and cold tools that work on whatever logic is given to them and don’t have any biases that can affect human thinking.

I am sure, as and when ISPR brings in solid proof the way they did with fighters, these AI tools would also accept them. Even I have no issues when that happens.

Till then this “trust me bro” brigade would have to take a chill pill.

I do suspect that ISPR wouldn’t release any such images because they don’t exist. Let’s see if they prove me wrong.

 

[Khanivore]

It could be but if you can get a picture of UV-50 dispenser with exact same angle then you got it ma man. I will look for avionics module and you look for dispenser module. Hopefully we find it. The whole point for this exercise is to prove Indians wrong so we must find solid evidence.

My friend it's virtually impossible to find the dispenser module let alone find it in the position you suggest. We have to make best of what we've found so far.

 

[Khanivore]

You like many others have been trying to find some damage in few of the images. Not all. Just a sliver of hope to get a toe hold then try and carry it forward from there. Cute attempt though.

No critical thinking, no application of logic, just plain effort to create a narrative.

So, you are no different than an average Joe who has gone full bore behind this latest drama.

If the roles were switched and you played this game on an Indian forum you would be long gone over there. Stop pissing around, buddy.

 

[Hayabusa]

Main reason for using Grok was because it is embedded with X and easier to use. I asked same thing from ChatGPT. Answer is given in my previous posts.

Most assistants are likely to give similar response because all these X accounts have mixed doctored images with few undoctored ones. That itself raises a red flag. Many of these claim some place but are from a different place. That indicates poor comprehension and analysis capability of that person. Again a red flag. There are many other issues that are likely to not allow credence to these amateur efforts.

That’s why BDA has a certain process that brings credibility to it. None of these seem to be able to meet any of those criteria.

The reason for using AI tools was to bring in neutrality. Otherwise, it was my assessment too.

These AI tools are heartless and cold tools that work on whatever logic is given to them and don’t have any biases that can affect human thinking.

I am sure, as and when ISPR brings in solid proof the way they did with fighters, these AI tools would also accept them. Even I have no issues when that happens.

Till then this “trust me bro” brigade would have to take a chill pill.

I do suspect that ISPR wouldn’t release any such images because they don’t exist. Let’s see if they prove me wrong.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. The images has a very high probability of existing, even though they have not been released for reasons that remain unclear. Firstly, Pakistan do have access to satellite images. Secondly, It is just not possible for India to defend 100 percent against strikes. I am not just referring to civilian areas where the missiles may have been spoofed but militarized posts/bases as well. India is rapidly developing it's AD systems, but just haven't reach that level yet.

Moving on, despite acknowledging that OSINT is far from perfect, the past few days release of commercial satellite images have highlighted three instances of damage that look highly likely to be Fatah strikes, specifically two in Jalandhar and one in Amritsar (based on real damage seen, not just re-roofing).

I would categorize the rest as speculative, largely due to the timing ( as you mentioned previously) and the fact that only reroofing work is visible. (That said, it is undeniably puzzling that so many reroofing projects are taking place at military sites all at once though I won't pursue this, as it's speculative).

While you might take issue with OSINT communities conducting their own research, and though it certainly has its faults, they have provided a solid indication of where the strikes occurred, and also correlated with what India spokesperson (Colonel and Wing Commander).

For Indian Claims, Finding plane wreckages is not possible, as no further evidence is given on shooting down the planes (coordinates or location). If IAF had given even a hint on the area where the engagement took place, (Indian OSINT sources particularly Damien Symons in particular would be scouring for any potential locations to validate their claims.

 

[Areesh]

This is what Grok has to say about this image.

 

[Vkdindian1]

If the roles were switched and you played this game on an Indian forum you would be long gone over there. Stop pissing around, buddy.

Let’s argue on merit and not sentiments. If I break any forum rules, mods are there to take care. Please report.

What I am surprised is lack of merit based counter to my views. Same “Saar “ type cheap comments to derail.

 

[Jango007]

Is Grok Indian’s new Lord superior now ?

They use Grok for everything and sound so stupid on videos saying “ Haay grak how many Pakistani F16 C Abhinonedone shat down “

 

[Vkdindian1]

Firstly, Pakistan do have access to satellite images. Secondly, It is just not possible for India to defend 100 percent against strikes.

Agreed on both.

As the operations were unfolding, ISPR was conducting daily media briefings to bring out facts. All the claims were supported with data. Either physical or digital. Very well conducted I must say.

When the claim of attack on 36 bases was made, I also had no doubt that it is likely to cause a lot of damage. Indian AD is supposed to be better than Pakistan but not so good.

I too was anticipating many deaths and a lot of damage. Next day Col Sophia and her AF counterpart accepted an ATTEMPT to attack many bases but NO substantial damage. I still assumed it to be not true and was expecting images of damage to show otherwise. Many posters claim this statement to be a proof. They don’t seem to understand the difference between ATTEMPT and SUCCESS. India ATTEMPTED against large number of installations. Did it succeed against all? NO.

Then satellite images were released by India and I was surprised with the accuracy and the reach of those attacks.
It was now the time for narrative buildup and there was no reason for the ISPR to not come out with their data. Sadly that hasn’t happened till date. If they were so keen to release information to prove their earlier claims, what would stop them from taking the high ground now? Intriguing isn’t it?

After all BuM was all about those attacks and with no proof, there were bound to be many questions.

Then it became clear, that probably the assault against Indian Installations did not really go as planned and envisaged. When India challenged Pakistan to come out with images, it was out of confidence that no major damage has been caused. The reason for ISPR’s silence in this regard started becoming clear. And it was not goodwill or to give an off ramp as claimed by many posters. It was lack of any images, which must have been procured and analysed and then buried deep.

Where did all the Fatah go then? Many of them obviously fell inside many bases and also close to military installations. But that isn’t good enough in these days of hyper-precision. One has to strike a target with precision of a couple of meters to be able to call it a success. Which apparently didn’t happen.

Some of these might have fallen on non-critical buildings or open areas. But it was clear to ISPR that those were not good enough for them to release any official data.

Then what is happening now? There was obviously a lot of questions being raised by critics about lack of success of BuM. What better way to do it then hand it over to media cells of organisations tasked to create narratives. It was given a spark and then it caught up on the social media and many hordes descended over it with Google images. Overnight OSINT experts were ready for the task to the glee and happiness of ISPR.

Very same people were claiming till few days back that India doesn’t allow satellite images of its infrastructure. What happened to that? Till yesterday, poor ISPR was hapless in being able to get images due to Indian hegemony over space?
You see how general population is taken for a ride. No one asked what happened to Chinese brethren who were providing active satellite support on 07 May. Can India stop them from providing these images? The term Fanboys is coined for these situations.

Why do I not accept this effort by so called OSINT? First of all by calling oneself OSINT, one doesn’t acquire the capabilities or tools of this trade.
Many of these X account holders have posted AI edited pictures with non-edited pictures. That muddies the waters. The intent becomes throwing muck and not bringing out facts. Then look at their past account activity. EACH ONE OF THEM, quoted here have been posting propaganda kind of stuff over a long time. That doesn’t give one credibility but takes it away.

Yes, few images do indicate some kind of repair work or renovation in progress. So what? Does that make it battle damage? A credible OSINt needs to get hold of good quality images within few days of the event and then do the analysis.

I have already stated all these earlier but many people are getting sentimental and angry against me.

I have just quoted the minimum required criteria for a credible BDA. And it’s not my fault that ISPR has failed in obtaining this data and laying everything to rest.

I am pretty sure that ISPR would let these amateurs take this narrative to Pakistani awaam and convince them of what they couldn’t achieve.

I am neither buying it nor giving it any credence.

 

[Khanivore]

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