Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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AeronautIR
HemlockKhalid
This is an excellent question and its answer lies in understanding that BVR range is not fixed. Meteor has the largest NEZ of around 60 km and its operational range is claimed to be 100 km. Though estimated range is 200km, its kill probability reduces drastically if target is at 150 km.but not all Rafale was shot in range greater than 150km? there are some shot down < 150Km? Also, it is said that the fight was going for 52 minutes. then why didnt they gel a single lock or meteor shot?
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Simply put, PL-15 has an advantage over Meteor in a fight at the ranges we saw in Op Sindoor. Other factors like IAF complacency, system integration, PAF tactics of silent kill chain, pilot training for last 5 years focused on countering Meteor and S-400 etc also played an important role.
The Rafales shot down at lesser ranges were at lower altitudes. The J-10C pilots were waiting for HQ-9 to shine and Rafale pilots naturally descended to avoid SAM threat. At that exact moment, J-10 moved in for the kill when Meteor range was reduced by say 40-50 km due altitude. So it was a choreographed fight and should not be seen as just J-10's PL-15 vs Rafale's Meteor.
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Yasser76
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LC150
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some people still are in shock.....
it happens when your arse is blown away at 20,000 FT all over mother india...
Falcon26
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The Indians simply didn’t know what hit them. This is clear from their intercepted audio recordings and the swift manner they grounded their air force for two days in a 4 day war.
Regardless of the machismo and fake narrative wars India is running, the Indian air force knows what it went up against and they are totally terrified.
Regardless of the machismo and fake narrative wars India is running, the Indian air force knows what it went up against and they are totally terrified.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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Trump knows, if Ind breaks, Russia breaks as well, economically!
thats the American dilemma here
China needs Russia so, this 3 body problem will continue for a long time
Final story is still not revealed, right now only kills are revealed, from what i have read from respectable members here there were few others which were damaged beyond repairs but did managed to somehow reach back, those are not included in the "kills"
NationalistPKDude132
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Actually China does not need Russia, it is Russia who needs China
It seems Xi Trump and Putin have made backdoor deal on who controls what hemisphere
You see the game here?
Trump is letting putin do what he wants, trump says he doesnt care about taiwan and trump is implementing Donroe(Monroe) Doctrine in Americas
it is all a game between these 3
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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you are observations are correct, but over look economical grounds
1. China needs cheap oil
2. China wants to avoid $ as mode of payment
3. China needs more than 1 oil supplier (to avoid blackmailing!)
