Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[niubi]

India's dominant religions teach exceptionalism NOT equality or respect for others different to them. Yes they mostly still teach to be a good person and all that but they teach hierarchy for humans.

Indians are indoctrinated with this hierarchy so cannot accept they can't overpower those they consider lower than them i.e. Chinese, Muslims etc.

The remaining path of least resistance psychologically for Indians is to become exceptional at cognitive dissonance. It's the only thing that reconciles their perception of being so great and the reality of their poor military performance (indeed also their poor economic and industrial performance too). I have to say, while Pakistan is better at this than Indians, it is no stranger to spinning some fantasy and believing in comforting things too. Then again, Western nations are not that much better and even East Asian ones that foster self doubt and shame from a young age are no strangers to placating. Luckily, they are just a lot more competent and have to do it less than India.

 

[RescueRanger]

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[LC150]

India's dominant religions teach exceptionalism NOT equality or respect for others different to them. Yes they mostly still teach to be a good person and all that but they teach hierarchy for humans.

Indians are indoctrinated with this hierarchy so cannot accept they can't overpower those they consider lower than them i.e. Chinese, Muslims etc.

The remaining path of least resistance psychologically for Indians is to become exceptional at cognitive dissonance. It's the only thing that reconciles their perception of being so great and the reality of their poor military performance (indeed also their poor economic and industrial performance too). I have to say, while Pakistan is better at this than Indians, it is no stranger to spinning some fantasy and believing in comforting things too. Then again, Western nations are not that much better and even East Asian ones that foster self doubt and shame from a young age are no strangers to placating. Luckily, they are just a lot more competent and have to do it less than India.

hindu indians are a sub human civilization ...

most of their history is under 1000 year muslim rule which made it one of the richest country on earth or under 200 English rule

thier own rule of 70 years showed they can never match china....or feed its 600M+ who live under poverty line...

 

[Falcon26]

yes sir,

Brahmos is discussed since their use seems to give some saving grace to Indians who were forced to ground their air force in the middle of conflict for 2 days.

definitely new tactics and doctrines are being written and plans being made before the next showdown.

In my view, since 2019, the Indians didn't change their tactics other than coming with a huge force since they were now targeting Pakistan proper as well. they were hoping to overwhelm the Pakistan air defenses and launch their SOW's deep within their sides of border and return while their escort elements were ready to intercept any PAF responses but sadly for them, PDF (not PAF) cheated and gave wrong information on Wikipedia on the P-15 effective range and capabilities and their plans fell short, resulting in X number of IAF planes getting shot down.

either its a bruised pride that they are not admitting that they have received a historic dressing down by PAF or they are still willing to gamble on another round due to our self imposed restraint in escalation ladder which PAF(+ rest of military leaderships) of 2019 and 2025 maintained despite having the opportunity to shoot down much more planes on both occasions and I understand and agree with that restraint because being a smaller side with limited war stamina, our leadership has to make a call that the response is sufficient to shock the Indians but not pass some threshold which they have more capacity to absorb than we can. I do know that if Indians get the similar opportunity then they will never hold back because they believe they can absorb the reaction of PAF.

having dealt with them along the LoC I can tell you that they use every opportunity and dirty trick in the book to hurt you back. shooting at passenger vans, firing tracers on ripe fields and opening fire (at least I know one in early 2000s) just before flag staff meeting.

I expect them attempting to target our commercial plane as well claiming it was carrying Hafiz Saeed etc. I pray that all our combat, transport, military and civilian planes remain safe from their sneak attacks like one on the PN Orion plane, 6 months after Kargil war after they had lost 2 jets.

It was a Bréguet Atlantique not P-3C Orions. The P-3C were lost in a terror attack while on base like the Erieyes.