Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I did say it was unlikely, hence I suggested a perfectly reasonable alternative plan.

Balkanisation would pacify hindutva - that is the objective here. If they can't be civilised in this way, then we sort out what needs sorting and put them on perma-ignore. With any luck, they will turn on one another after that anyway. They already hate each other for reasons of caste, religion, social class, ethnicity....etc etc.
I said the same thing to indians also on their forums.

You want to balkanize Pakistan.Okay go ahead with that.But think What will be the end result of that? There are millions of people in this region.They are going nowhere.You divide them along ethnic lines and that will invite foreign powers to exploit not only this region but deep inside India also.
A stable Pakistan keeping the Foreigners at bay from South Asia is good for this whole region and so is a strong India.

You got China, a completely different nation at your borders who has the capability to expand into your Territories.You got big things to worry about but still focusing on Pakistan is idiotic to say the least.
 
I said the same thing to indians also on their forums.

You want to balkanize Pakistan.Okay go ahead with that.But think What will be the end result of that? There are millions of people in this region.They are going nowhere.You divide them along ethnic lines and that will invite foreign powers to exploit not only this region but deep inside India also.
A stable Pakistan keeping the Foreigners at bay from South Asia is good for this whole region and so is a strong India.

You got China, a completely different nation at your borders who has the capability to expand into your Territories.You got big things to worry about but still focusing on Pakistan is idiotic to say the least.
I don't understand your garbage philosophy. Really it is beyond me. It is perfectly fine by me if (by some miracle) Hindustan collapses into a dozen warring city states (which is exactly what existed prior to the first shot fired by the British at the Battle of Plassey) and then miscellaneous chieftains from neighbouring or even distant countries come along and take whatever they feel like taking.

I am not surprised Indians on their forum found your ideology equally risible.
 
you noted Raiders while South Asia was ruled by foreigners for a thousand years... Moguls came and stayed, far longer then Brits... so on and so forth.
I didn't note Mughals because those people were mostly internalized. Whatever they got from here, invested back in subcontinent & Kept this whole region under one Umbrella.

Rest of your headless essay doesn't carry any meaningful weight as usual.
 
I didn't note Mughals because those people were mostly internalized. Whatever they got from here, invested back in subcontinent & Kept this whole region under one Umbrella.

Rest of your headless essay doesn't carry any meaningful weight as usual.

Tin can toast again... Keep clanking... these posts actually reflect a mentality that needs to surface as ignorant cowards often keep it to themselves... carrying that along and only surface when proded or triggered enough...
Second, you wish you had a rebuttal or depth to respond and follow the rabit hole.
Nuff said...
 
Tin can toast again... Keep clanking... these posts actually reflect a mentality that needs to surface as ignorant cowards often keep it to themselves... carrying that along and only surface when proded or triggered enough...
Second, you wish you had a rebuttal or depth to respond and follow the rabit hole.
Nuff said...
It's appeasement and cowardice masked as "strategic patience" and aided by cherry picked history and pseudo religious jibber jabber. We all understand Pakistan's position is very weak and the country needs stability and growth , but turning the cheek every time you are slapped isn't going to bring dividends, from time to time you have to show your teeth and deliver a slap back. Same situation in other parts of the Muslim world.
 

In a first, (Indian)government releases names of personnel killed during ‘Operation Sindoor’​

Six armed forces personnel, including one IAF personnel , were killed in Operation Sindoor​

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p.s: IAF Personnel was based at Udhampur Airbase


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Why it took nearly a year for Operation Sindoor martyrs’ names to reach the National War Memorial​

Every name engraved on the Tyag Chakra undergoes multiple levels of verification to ensure complete accuracy before becoming part of the country’s official military history​

Published - June 27, 2026 03:33 pm IST - New Delhi


The names of six military personnel, Sub Maj Pawan Kumar, Rfn Sunil Kumar (VrC), L Nk Dinesh Kumar, Av Mood Muralinaik, Hav Sunil Kumar Singh of the Indian Army, and Sgt Surendra Kumar (VM) of the Indian Air Force, who died in the line of duty during Operation Sindoor in 2025, inscribed on a wall at the National War Memorial as a tribute to the fallen heroes, in New Delhi on June 26, 2026.
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The names of six military personnel, Sub Maj Pawan Kumar, Rfn Sunil Kumar (VrC), L Nk Dinesh Kumar, Av Mood Muralinaik, Hav Sunil Kumar Singh of the Indian Army, and Sgt Surendra Kumar (VM) of the Indian Air Force, who died in the line of duty during Operation Sindoor in 2025, inscribed on a wall at the National War Memorial as a tribute to the fallen heroes, in New Delhi on June 26, 2026. | Photo Credit: PTI


Nearly a year after Operation Sindoor, the government has formally honoured six Indian Armed Forces personnel who laid down their lives during the cross-border operation in May 2025 by entering their names in the National War Memorial’s Roll of Honour. Their names will now be permanently inscribed on the Tyag Chakra (Circle of Sacrifice), the memorial’s central commemorative wall, marking the nation’s enduring tribute to their supreme sacrifice.

The delay in putting their names on National War Memorial was not an attempt to conceal casualties but the result of a structured administrative and legal process followed by the Indian Armed Forces before any battle casualty is officially recorded and commemorated at the National War Memorial.

War memorials are not merely monuments; they are permanent national records of military sacrifice. Every name engraved on the Tyag Chakra undergoes multiple levels of verification to ensure complete accuracy before becoming part of the country’s official military history.

According to a senior Army officer, battle casualties are never hidden. During the Operation Sindoor media briefing, the DGMO Lieutenant General Rajiv Ghai publicly confirmed the casualties of military personnel. The Chief of the Air Staff personally visited the family of the airman who made the supreme sacrifice. However, the Armed Forces follow a prescribed procedure before a soldier’s name can be officially declared and inscribed on the memorial.

The process begins immediately after a soldier is killed in action. The commanding officer of the unit submits an initial casualty report detailing the circumstances of the death. Simultaneously, the next of kin are informed through official channels, while medical authorities and civil administration issue the necessary death certificates required for pension, insurance and financial benefits.

However, the initial casualty report alone is insufficient for inclusion at the National War Memorial.

Each case must first be examined to determine whether it qualifies as a Battle Casualty under the regulations of the Indian Armed Forces. This classification is governed by detailed rules issued by the Service Headquarters of the Army, Navy and Air Force.

Officials examine whether the death occurred during combat, hostile action, war-like operations, counter-terrorist missions, or other notified operational circumstances. Supporting operational reports, eyewitness accounts and command endorsements are scrutinised before the case is processed further.

Only after these verifications does the competent authority at the respective Service Headquarters issue a formal Battle Casualty Report (BCR). The report serves as the official military certification that the soldier died in action under qualifying operational conditions.

The documentation then undergoes further scrutiny before being approved by the Ministry of Defence and the concerned Service Headquarters. Only after all records are verified are the names cleared for inclusion in the annual Roll of Honour maintained by the National War Memorial.

Officials say the memorial follows strict criteria because it is intended to remain a permanent national record. Any error in name, rank, unit or operational status would become part of history and therefore cannot be corrected casually after the names are engraved.

The National War Memorial, inaugurated to honour armed forces personnel who have laid down their lives since Independence, commemorates more than 26,000 soldiers. At its heart lies the Tyag Chakra, comprising 16 concentric granite walls inspired by the ancient Chakravyuh battle formation. Each fallen soldier is honoured on an individual granite tablet with the name etched in golden letters alongside rank and unit.

The six personnel now formally recognised for Operation Sindoor are Subedar Major Pawan Kumar of Headquarters 10 Infantry Brigade, Rifleman Sunil Kumar, Vir Chakra, of 4 Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry, Lance Naik Dinesh Kumar of 5 Field Regiment, Agniveer Mood Muralinaik of 851 Light Regiment, Havildar Sunil Kumar Singh of 237 Field Workshop Company, and Sergeant Surendra Kumar, Vayu Sena Medal, of 39 Wing.

Their names were released along with the annual list of armed forces personnel who made the supreme sacrifice during various operations in 2025, including Operation Rakshak and Operation Hifazat.

Operation Sindoor was launched on May 7, 2025, in response to the April 22 Pahalgam terror attack that claimed the lives of 26 civilians. During the operation, the Indian Armed Forces carried out precision strikes on nine terror-linked targets in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (Pakistan Azaad Kashmir) before military operations ceased on May 10 following an understanding reached through the two countries’ Directors General of Military Operations.

With their names now entered into the Roll of Honour and set to be engraved on the Tyag Chakra, the six personnel have received the highest form of official national recognition. The nearly one-year interval reflects not secrecy, but the meticulous institutional process through which the Indian Armed Forces verify every battle casualty before permanently recording it in the nation’s military history.

 

Congress accuses Rajnath Singh of misleading Parliament on Operation Sindoor casualties​

The Centre’s disclosure exposes a contradiction between the Defence Minister’s statement in Parliament and the official record, the Opposition party says, calling for a full disclosure of facts in the monsoon session​

Published - June 27, 2026 08:58 pm IST - New Delhi



A day after the government officially released the names of the soldiers who died during Operation Sindoor, the Congress on Saturday (June 27, 2026) accused Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh of misleading Parliament by stating that no Indian soldier had died during the military operation.

The government’s disclosure had exposed a contradiction between the Defence Minister’s statement in Parliament and the official record, the party said, demanding that the Centre place the complete facts relating to Operation Sindoor before the House during the forthcoming monsoon session.

The Congress’s deputy leader in the Lok Sabha Gaurav Gogoi said that during the parliamentary debate on Operation Sindoor, he had urged the Defence Minister to present “the complete truth” before the Parliament and the nation. “Instead, the House was unequivocally told that our soldiers had suffered no loss,” he said in a post on social media platform X.

A year later, the government itself had officially released the names of six personnel who had made “the supreme sacrifice” during the operation, he said.

“The government’s own admission exposes a stark contradiction. Parliament was misled on a matter of the highest national importance. The families of our martyrs deserve the truth. Our brave soldiers deserve to have their sacrifice acknowledged with honesty and dignity. Is this how the government chooses to honour those who gave their lives in service of the nation?” he said.

Congress general secretary Randeep Singh Surjewala also attacked the government, alleging that it had failed to speak the truth even on the issue of soldiers’ sacrifices.

“The age of a lie is short, the truth of martyrdom is indelible. Those who do not speak the truth even for martyrdom, what respect will they show to the martyrs! Those who shamelessly lie in the temple of democracy, who will believe them!” Mr. Surjewala said in a post on X.

Casualties were an inevitable possibility in military operations, senior Congress leader and Chandigarh MP Manish Tewari said, questioning why the government had sought to conceal the facts.

“In a kinetic action casualties do happen. Why obfuscate the facts and dissimulate, and that too to Parliament —the supreme legislative institution of the nation?” he said.

“If there are some other facts pertaining to Operation Sindoor, government should squarely put them on the table of Parliament during the ensuing monsoon session without demur,” Mr. Tewari said.

 

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