Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Saifullah]

Pakistan needs a civilian reserve/militia in all areas near the border. During war their task would be raids into India and guerrilla warfare inside Pakistan if needed. At least a 2.5 million strong militia is needed. Cheap drones, loitering munitions, and missiles are effective but still limited in what they can achieve. Russia-Ukraine war and now Iran-USA war shows the importance of manpower. With Pakistans potential manpower reserves, it can afford to lose a few hundred thousand volunteer fighters in the war. Pakistan has a higher population density near the border than India. It can mobilize more locals and organize raids deeper inside India because of this.

Also, a Hezbollah or Houthi type group needs to be established in Bangladesh and to counter India. Their goal would be to open another front against India in any future war. Loitering munitions should be provided to this group to use against India in any future war. Indias large area means there’ll always be gaps in its air defences.

 

[Oscar]

Pakistan needs a civilian reserve/militia in all areas near the border. During war their task would be raids into India and guerrilla warfare inside Pakistan if needed. At least a 2.5 million strong militia is needed. Cheap drones, loitering munitions, and missiles are effective but still limited in what they can achieve. Russia-Ukraine war and now Iran-USA war shows the importance of manpower. With Pakistans potential manpower reserves, it can afford to lose a few hundred thousand volunteer fighters in the war. Pakistan has a higher population density near the border than India. It can mobilize more locals and organize raids deeper inside India because of this.

Also, a Hezbollah or Houthi type group needs to be established in Bangladesh and to counter India. Their goal would be to open another front against India in any future war. Loitering munitions should be provided to this group to use against India in any future war. Indias large area means there’ll always be gaps in its air defences.

Pakistan has enough people with guns who are more likely to attack the state or anyone else they disagree with.

 

[Trailer23]

Pakistan has enough people with guns...

It's like having the NRA in Pakistan.

"We have the Right to bear Arm."

 

[Falcon26]

It's like having the NRA in Pakistan.

"We have the Right to bear Arm."

In Pakistan, the slogan is “we have the right to bear arms and legs.”

 

[falcon34]

the indians fk heads are producing lies upon lies, writing books and producing documentaries and we ain't doing shit, this will literally erase this our perspective and we actually did to India in a generation or two as all the citeable works on the conflict will be indians @Oscar has mentioned this before.
@Panzerkiel why are being so tight lipped at least there would be something that we can put out without giving anything away

 

[Master Chief]

the indians fk heads are producing lies upon lies, writing books and producing documentaries and we ain't doing shit, this will literally erase this our perspective and we actually did to India in a generation or two as all the citeable works on the conflict will be indians @Oscar has mentioned this before.
@Panzerkiel why are being so tight lipped at least there would be something that we can put out without giving anything away

But Pakistan has not been tight lipped. The reasons for Indian dominance over the info-sphere are not related to a lack of answers available. The reasons are essentially due to a weight of numerical superiority that is yet to be overcome and also due to the alliances forged with the world's leading information providers and technological servicers (mostly Israel) within this realm. We are behind the game on this matter but not for the reasons you seem to be suggesting.

 

[Panzerkiel]

@Panzerkiel why are being so tight lipped at least there would be something that we can put out without giving anything away

 

[redgriffin]

I was just messing with you

Had a larger collection, mum made the executive decision of sending a few while wrapping up the house in KHI.

I remember that one. Had an MG3 on the front cover (I think)

Welcome to the club!!! Had a small library of over 600 books. Moved houses a few years ago, mother & missus decided to do an operation clean up & now I have only 327 books left. Thank fully I managed to save almost 99.99% of my aviation & military history collection, the ones lost were Defenders of Pakistan & The Air Campgain: Planning for Combat by Col. John A Warden III, USAF. That book is a bit dry for general avgeeks & enthusiasts but is a must read for developing an understanding of how air power is employed at the stragtegic level.

 

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[RocketLaw]

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Honestly I think this is last message here

We should close this thread, there is no point to discuss further.

 

[Oscar]

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Honestly I think this is last message here

We should close this thread, there is no point to discuss further.

Considering Pakistanis were still talking to Swift retort 5 years in… this is just a year old and the monument is so much bigger than the PAF specific plaques for retort.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I don't understand why ISPR is having babies over a propaganda film by India?

What is going on in the head of ISPR right now? Crazy odd for them to be triggered like this !!!

If it is "that important to them" then maybe they should sponsor a Pakistani propaganda film for Pakistan's point of view ?????

 

[Oscar]

I don't understand why ISPR is having babies over a propaganda film by India?

What is going on in the head of ISPR right now? Crazy odd !!!

If it is "that important to them" then maybe they should sponsor a Pakistani propaganda film for Pakistan's point of view ?????

It is actually important since India is pushing that film through streaming channels, with WB india behind it.

So if a fictional account starts being pushed ad authoritative documentary by Nat geo, Discovery , History channels - then your overall perception drops.

Keep in mind that your ikhwan are EASILY impressed with anything that has a western tab on it -

You could potentially have a Pakistani come in and provide them a tailored air combat deployment strategy that takes into account every aspect of their environment and operational restraints - and they would hum it off - while a western guy can come in with 5 lightly changed random slides and they will start chanting “Mumtaz”

 

[Cipher212]

It is actually important since India is pushing that film through streaming channels, with WB india behind it.

So if a fictional account starts being pushed ad authoritative documentary by Nat geo, Discovery , History channels - then your overall perception drops.

Keep in mind that your ikhwan are EASILY impressed with anything that has a western tab on it -

You could potentially have a Pakistani come in and provide them a tailored air combat deployment strategy that takes into account every aspect of their environment and operational restraints - and they would hum it off - while a western guy can come in with 5 lightly changed random slides and they will start chanting “Mumtaz”

I just noticed this the other day. In the US, Indian movies are even present for in-flight entertainment. Some of those were action films where obviously Pakistan is involved. Can't recall names or actors cause I don't watch Billy trash.

Have seen their pro-state media penetrating on mainstream American media platforms a little bit. Like that new Safed Sagar show on Netflix India.

Doesn't really matter in grand scheme of things but it seems like they are trying to project their version of history globally.

 

[Watandar]

I just noticed this the other day. In the US, Indian movies are even present for in-flight entertainment. Some of those were action films where obviously Pakistan is involved. Can't recall names or actors cause I don't watch Billy trash.

Have seen their pro-state media penetrating on mainstream American media platforms a little bit. Like that new Safed Sagar show on Netflix India.

Doesn't really matter in grand scheme of things but it seems like they are trying to project their version of history globally.

The in-flight Indian movies are for the Indian passengers who make up a lot of the traffic on international routes. Similarly the Indian films being exhibited in US cinemas are exclusively for Indian clientele.

Netflix has been searching for new markets and has heavily invested in India, hence the Netflix produced Indian content now on the platform.

I would not worry about Bollywood's effect on the US at the moment, the content is too mediocre and alien to attract US audiences. Add in the increasingly Hindutva flavor and it's an additional turn off.

Another fortunate turn is the poor reputation of Indian news and social media which they continously enhance themselves, like the recent false Indian claims about Iran going nuclear.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/16/business/iran-nuclear-false-claims.html

India is a long long away from building softpower around the world like Japan or South Korea have recently done.