Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

To be fair - the way they executed SCALP strikes post losing air superiority over anything west of Ludhiana or Jodhpur is commendable. Using AEWs to find gaps in Pakistan's AEW patrols and cueing them into these narrow windows at low level for drops.

It was good.

Great post!


three things, from their perspective:

1. they have made sure, threshold for not using nukes, even if it comes down, it wont result in nu*****r strike!

2. they now, know how to find safe passage within our defense walls (missile shield!)
(seems strike on Noor Khan was planned, it wasnt they decided only 2 hours before the attack, it was planned well ahead, like thing to do in the first hour of the war sort of stuff!)


3. they also now know, what is the threshold to break our air defense!




Note: im not a defense expert, so dont take my word seriously, I could be wrong!

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Great post!


three things, from their perspective:

1. they have made sure, threshold for not using nukes, even if it comes down, it wont result in nu*****r strike!

2. they now, know how to find safe passage within our defense walls (missile shield!)
(seems strike on Noor Khan was planned, it wasnt they decided only 2 hours before the attack, it was planned well ahead, like thing to do in the first hour of the war sort of stuff!)


3. they also now know, what is the threshold to break our air defense!




Note: im not a defense expert, so dont take my word seriously, I could be wrong!

good post indeed and be assured you are among the top tier experts among us defence enthusiasts. your humility is pleasent but don't underestimate your reasoning and understanding.

 

[K2RULEZ]

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Honestly I think this is last message here

We should close this thread, there is no point to discuss further.

The Indians are only good at making making movies and documentaries. Let them enjoy their movies.

Their leaders and representatives know the score on the ground.

 

[Oscar]

Great post!


three things, from their perspective:

1. they have made sure, threshold for not using nukes, even if it comes down, it wont result in nu*****r strike!

2. they now, know how to find safe passage within our defense walls (missile shield!)
(seems strike on Noor Khan was planned, it wasnt they decided only 2 hours before the attack, it was planned well ahead, like thing to do in the first hour of the war sort of stuff!)


3. they also now know, what is the threshold to break our air defense!




Note: im not a defense expert, so dont take my word seriously, I could be wrong!

1. Technically, they havent really gotten to the declared threshold but instead are pushing it as far as it will go. The declared threshold wasnt strikes but there was ambiguity on "strategic" weapons which were quite frankly classified in good faith based on potential carriage of nuclear weapons.

2. Strike on Chaklala was fairly well planned with timing on what would make Pakistan move the HQ-9 away from danger and when CAPs might be diverted elsewhere. Now, it is possible that PAF was misquoted in AFM but if Chaklala was truly a Spice hit that is a remarkable use of terrain and possibly them flying up Neelum, then likely to Muzaffarabad area to still keep out of Shorad.
This requires some excellent low level, NVG navigation which the M2k is well suited for.
Pure speculation based on it actually being Spice 1000. If it was Scalp or Rampage then yes its still good planning but nothing quite spectacular as the above.

3.Yes and no - Pakistan was conserving its AD for greater and greater escalation which is was trying to manage. But whatever "breaks" happened were actually well managed through combination of soft kills and hard kills for only the most stubborn systems.

 

[Owaiz]

It is actually important since India is pushing that film through streaming channels, with WB india behind it.

What film is this ? I have seen the Safed Sagar series on Netflix, which is about Kargil, but nothing on HBO Max ( I am assuming WB is Warner Brothers).

 

[Panzerkiel]

To be fair - the way they executed SCALP strikes post losing air superiority over anything west of Ludhiana or Jodhpur is commendable. Using AEWs to find gaps in Pakistan's AEW patrols and cueing them into these narrow windows at low level for drops.

It was good.

What i have learnt over the years.....sky is such a vast entity....finding radar and AEW gaps isnt that much hard either....i mean you do require some hardcore 'work'....but then finding gaps isnt an issue....examples being Ukraine, Russia, Iran, and many more.....

which brings me to a not-so-recent exercise, wherein 6 - 8 AEW aircraft were able to provide CONTINUOS AWACS cover over Pak airspace...wherein even suppression of PAF bases by IAF became an issue and multiple IAF strike aircraft were shot down...