Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[White Privilege]

Last few pages became interesting.
@Oscar - after keeping a lid on for more than 15 months shared some new tidbits. Scalp attack and potential Spice launch from all the way in AJK airspace. Tells us IAF is not as nailey as we think they are. They were able to adapt on the go.

@Panzerkiel - PAF has also worked at looking at shortcomings and have reacted accordingly

@AeronautIR - Bernala ki sahee thukai howee. Was it on May 7th (during the air battle) or later on May 10th?

'Spice Launch from All the way in AJK airspace' , where was this mentioned, and how did this even happen with Indians dead scared of the J-10/PL-15 combo, as far as we know, Indians lobbed missiles from outside with missile reach latter on....

 

[Panzerkiel]

Last few pages became interesting.
@Oscar - after keeping a lid on for more than 15 months shared some new tidbits. Scalp attack and potential Spice launch from all the way in AJK airspace. Tells us IAF is not as nailey as we think they are. They were able to adapt on the go.

@Panzerkiel - PAF has also worked at looking at shortcomings and have reacted accordingly

@AeronautIR - Bernala ki sahee thukai howee. Was it on May 7th (during the air battle) or later on May 10th?

Some respected and well read users here have the ability to make any thread here interesting... In the blink of an eye

Thukaaee buhat si jaga ki hui thi.... And not just by air force.... The predecessor to today's rocket command and present artillery divisions put their due weight once it was required.

 

[Pak Defender]

Indian military is evacuating multiple villages near its bases in northern Kashmir's Kupwara district.

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[Gripen9]

10th. PAF was only in DCA role on 7th.

So we were about to go full bore on them…

 

[Gripen9]

'Spice Launch from All the way in AJK airspace' , where was this mentioned, and how did this even happen with Indians dead scared of the J-10/PL-15 combo, as far as we know, Indians lobbed missiles from outside with missile reach latter on....

I think I misread his post. Nothing of that sort happened.

 

[Panzerkiel]

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[Hayabusa]

1. Technically, they havent really gotten to the declared threshold but instead are pushing it as far as it will go. The declared threshold wasnt strikes but there was ambiguity on "strategic" weapons which were quite frankly classified in good faith based on potential carriage of nuclear weapons.

2. Strike on Chaklala was fairly well planned with timing on what would make Pakistan move the HQ-9 away from danger and when CAPs might be diverted elsewhere. Now, it is possible that PAF was misquoted in AFM but if Chaklala was truly a Spice hit that is a remarkable use of terrain and possibly them flying up Neelum, then likely to Muzaffarabad area to still keep out of Shorad.
This requires some excellent low level, NVG navigation which the M2k is well suited for.
Pure speculation based on it actually being Spice 1000. If it was Scalp or Rampage then yes its still good planning but nothing quite spectacular as the above.

3.Yes and no - Pakistan was conserving its AD for greater and greater escalation which is was trying to manage. But whatever "breaks" happened were actually well managed through combination of soft kills and hard kills for only the most stubborn systems.

I would say number 2 would have been impressive. Except it was established very early on that no aircrafts crossed each other's border.

 

[Master Chief]

Again with the evidence. the 4th Rafale that was damaged and subsequently written off was confirmed by HUMINT. And I have already said Pakistan has still got more proof than India for its claims. The damage to IAF was far more but people ignore that due to the hype of satellite images.
It is ok if you don't believe unless all intelligence agencies share the list of their sources in India with you, but that is not how it works.

Most folks here get it. Nothing further is needed. Whatever has been revealed has been revealed because sources/tech etc are not compromised by the reveal. I have no clue why anyone is still concerned by these details as we are now over a year later.

One other point - WHATEVER is "paraded" (unless ACTUAL debris that landed in Pakistan) will be denied and rejected anyway by the saffron qom. They have the weight of numbers and sheer volume in the informational sphere to create echo chamber as they see fit. Such an enemy cannot actually be disrupted without an ability to match those numbers and that media outreach, which we lack at present.

 

[falcon34]

10th. PAF was only in DCA role on 7th.

Can you detail the May 10th events from PAF's operations, we know barnala, sirinagar, adampur and bhuj. Rest 22 targets we don't know anything, so if you can add something that can add to to it it'd be great.

 

[falcon34]

Some respected and well read users here have the ability to make any thread here interesting... In the blink of an eye

Thukaaee buhat si jaga ki hui thi.... And not just by air force.... The predecessor to today's rocket command and present artillery divisions put their due weight once it was required.

Thukai usi time Raat 1-2 bajay 7 may ko ho jati toh, yeh drama na hot

 

[falcon34]

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Tbh the toy that I saw was, Better than this lord knows why we going for this one. At least it was home grown from 35mm guns to radars and all that.

 

[Panzerkiel]

Can you detail the May 10th events from PAF's operations, we know barnala, sirinagar, adampur and bhuj. Rest 22 targets we don't know anything, so if you can add something that can add to to it it'd be great.

If you add PAF drone operations and hits, that would include multiple other cities as well including Dehli....add cyber ops and you get a dozen more...

 

[r3alist]

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