Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Just like signature showcase by IAF, tk shoot down f16?

Need weakege of aircrafts after destroying

Presently what I can one mirage might get hit

If you have eyes, just look at various videos and photos posted in twitter of your downed jets.

Only a total dumb person will argue on that. Its absolutely clear with MICA, engine layouts that IAF has lost multiple aircrafts within first hour of its attack on Pakistan.

Open X / twitter and see independent OSINT accounts (not the ones associated with india or Pakistan)

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Pakistan downs 5 Indian jets as retaliation for late-night strikes at 6 sites: officials


Political leadership condemn cowardly act; DG ISPR says eight people slain, 35 injured; Trump calls India actions a "shame"; PM summons NSC meeting.
Sanaullah Khan | Dawn.com | AFP | Reuters | Nadir Guramani | Imran Gabol Published May 6, 2025 Updated 4 minutes ago
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The Pakistan military has brought down five Indian jets in retaliation for late-night strikes by its neighbouring country launched at six sites, including in Sialkot, Kotli, Bahawalpur and Muzaffarabad.

The military confrontation between Pakistan and India began a little after 1am on Wednesday with the Indian air strikes when the neighbouring country launched “Operation Sindoor”. Soon after reports emerged, the Inter-Services Public Relations confirmed the strikes, saying its air force jets were airborne and that India had carried out the attacks from within its airspace. Information Minister Attaullah Tarar confirmed the downing of two Indian jets around 2:45am after Pakistan launched its swift response. The confirmation of the third Indian plane came around 3:42am via state media, PTV, saying: “Pakistan Air Force shot down another Indian Rafale aircraft 17 nautical miles southwest of Awantipora.” The military spokesperson provided an updated damage assessment of the scenario around 4am, reporting the death of 8 civilians. Confirmation of the fourth and fifth Indian jets being downed came after 5am by the defence and information ministers.

Talking to the media around 7am at the information ministry, Tarar asserted that India had waved a white flag at the Line of Control and “accepted defeat”. The minister said this as footage of a white flag played in the background.

“They have been forced to wave a white flag,” Tarar said. PTV News also shared footage of a white flag hoisted seemingly on top of a structure.

 
It will be utterly shameful, cowardly, and foolish on Pakistan's part if it stops its hammering of Modi’s ass at this point. If the events of Feb 2019’s skirmish are any indication, Indians started mocking Pakistan for cowardice and making silly claims about PAF losses after Pakistan showed restrain in its response to Indian aggression. In fact, the weak Pakistani response then emboldened Modi today to launch another aggression against Pakistan, despite the opposition from the whole world, after staging a false flag terrorist attack and mischievously blaming Pakistan for it.

Pakistan must punish Modi’s India enough to deter him from repeating such a naked and shameless aggression against Pakistan yet once more in future. Downing five Indian fighter planes and destroying a few Indian posts across the LoC certainly does not qualify as a deterrent. Don’t get deceived if Indian soldiers are raising white flags on their posts. The question is, for what? They must surrender and hand over their positions to Pakistan army.

If Modi is allowed to get off the hook this time too, Indians will soon start claiming it was the diplomatic pressure mustered by Modi that forced Pakistan to back down. Worst than that, Modi will at least start playing again with international agreements and treaties such as the IWT. The wild pig is now caught by the balls and Pakistan must not make a mistake of letting him go without extracting the fullest price. Pakistan must utilize this opportunity to its fullest.

The root cause of the never-ending animosity between the two neighbors is the Kashmir dispute. India is in a clear and continued violation of UN resolutions on J&K and the commitments it made in bilateral and international agreements. Now Modi has even suspended the IWT in a clear violation of the clauses of the treaty itself.

Like German Nazis, the fascist Indians give no regards to treaties, agreements, and commitments. Indians are continuously exhibiting a subhuman behavior and obviously that is not acceptable to the world, especially the Indian neighbors.

This is the golden opportunity to kick Modi’s Hindutva India back to be a civilized creature. Pakistan must not give in for a temporary or local solution. We must address the root cause of the problem.
  • Pakistan must aim for cutting India’s ground link to the illegally Indian occupied J&K and then ask the surrounded Indian soldiers in the occupied territory to surrender. Pakistan must not allow the international pressure to stop it from achieving that goal. If done successfully, it will address the Kashmir dispute and, by corollary, the water dispute once for all.
  • If Pakistan cannot take the international pressure beyond a certain level, then it must occupy the dams (that India is using to steal our water) and surrounding areas. We must ensure our water security before we stop hammering India. No international body can guarantee our water from Hindu Nazi fascists.
  • Pakistan must bomb the RSS HQ and at least five other RSS terrorist offices. Mushrik Hindus have attacked our holy Masajid. Pakistan must teach a lesson to the RSS terrorist Modi that attacking our religious places has a huge price.
 
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They are claiming 80

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They can claim a thousand and it would be equally as untrue.

The truth is that these targets were likely picked as both soft targets, and as targets the Indian government thought wouldn't invoke a strong reaction from Pakistan.

They were right that they were soft targets and killed a bunch of civilians, but wrong and Pakistan would react harshly.

They were foolish, and they paid the price.
 
What has happened up to now is Indian aggression and Pakistani defense, including downing 5 Indian jets, destroying some regional headquarters, blowing up posts etc.

Now the time is for Pakistan's retaliation. Apparently lots of targets have been chosen and will be destroyed, inshallah.
 
Reciprocity can only be claimed, and any form of future deterrence established if Targets in mainland India are hit… at least 200km inside… and 20 hits..

As seen in Ukraine war SoW strikes are now the norm..
 

Grid Down Hospital – Part I​

Posted on October 6, 2016

Sir,

Don't worry if the time comes when the public need to have basic urban war fighter training - we have many magarmuch to provide that skillset in Pakistan.
 
As long as any!!!
Define can't.
If you mean ammo...
Pakistan being among the few with an unlimited supply or as needed.
The war economy in fact makes people resilient and self reliant.

If you mean forex... that is for peace time. Internally no dollars are needed... economic activity makes for fiat its own demand.

Above are just salient suppositions... ones who never trained for it or aimed to surrender don't need long war... they can do in hours, days or weeks.
Gaza fights from and within a cage... without food and water... without allies and without access to arms.

Your supposition is synonymous with any Indian who had delusions of grandeur... who thought Pakistan was their Gaza.
They killed our baby girl and bombed our mosques
I'm ready to fight like gazans and Afghans if we run out of resources but the question is
Are most of the fellow countrymen ready for such sacrifices and all that comes with it

If we are willing to lose our loved one's for our honor
Than let's go.
We are so ready

But at least we should know what's expected of us and what kinda sacrifices we'd have to make.

That'd be a civilian led fight than.
 
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