Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

yera! for larger aircrafts China has other missiles like PL17 or 21. PL15 isn't for that.
Just so let you know, PAF scored that Su30 kill in op. swift retort in 2019 by a range of 80 km that was a record back then well beyond NEZ of AIM120C-5. Previous record was of 60km by same missile in 2003 Iraq war by USAF. Again well beyond its NEZ.
NEZ entails the increased chances of a hit. And when you got incompetent air forces fighting against you like Iraqi Airforce and now this IAF then the kills well beyond NEZ becomes a good possibility. Even that R37M kill was also well beyond its NEZ. The adv. with PL15 is that nobody knows its true range beyond China and a select few in PAF AHQ. Even the pilots who launched PL15 in this battle didnt know its real range. And i therefore seriously doubt anyone in west will ever know, and since they dont know its true range, their NEZ calculations of PL15 is also based on guess work and connect the dots theory.
There is reason why PL15 has dual pulse motors and has its own mini AESA in her seeker to guide her independently to the target. This fire n forget autonomy (doesn't need AWACS, Link 17 guidance) point at something.
That's why i said use yr head! don't believe everything you learn through internet blindly.
lol PL-17 and PL-21 for my after mention missions against awacs/cargo targets and do research before you post AIM-120 C-5 has not max range 60 km but 105 km and how do you know that we intercepted MKI 80 km away? and this is the NEZ range of AMRAAM C-5 (range 105 km)


and please explain to me that how such small AESA seekers in BVR missiles can guide the missile to target that 150 to 200 km away (seeker has limited range due to space restriction in the missiles)?


you do nothing about military aviation, just living in your utopia and fantasy world
 
I met many Indians Punjabi today It was was her words she said we will be slaughter as usual. Modi will not understand.
 
Fucking busters chicken out as I expected. Mother fuckers they just good at beating their own people
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Yeah if they are saying this then chest thumping about jets being shot down means nothing when civilians have been killed
 
Post the URL into Chrome, right click on "translate" and it will take care of it. Works with every language i need to come across !!!

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Thank you sir

The option is there in twitter, I can see English

I mean technical translation and distillation of what he said, read through jargon etc
 
They pulled out of the Su-57 before for a reason. The reason being that it's shit and isn't a true 5th gen fighter. It's on par with the current KF-21 P0, and I'd wager even the KF-21 P0 is better than the Su-57.

No way India goes back to buying that trash, especially since there's no evidence that Russia would even be able to deliver them in time due to the war and sanctions placed upon them.
They will have to swallow all deficiencies if they want to get anything near to the 5th gen, i think it is better option then korean one because missiles and engines, also probably russians would allow local production and customization, with that they would bring india back into their military sales nest.
F35 is not realistic for India before they bow completely to americans even then i would say as along the aircraft whole their airfight philosophy and infrastructure has to be upgraded for which i am not sure they have enough money for their scaled needs.
 
They say that as if Pakistan doesn't have any way to do the same.

Overzealous idiots.

India and Indian RSS followers think of themselves as superpower, so if Usa/Israel get away with it then they also believe they are entitled. China and Pakistan are small powers in front of them.
 
From 231 page when I went to sleep the ejector seat company had added 4 losses today .
Between that and one rafael confirmation by company itself now anything I missed guys please?
Any plane confirmation by international companies.
 
sharma jee, it should be better if Indian Navy goes away, high causalities are a possibility at High seas.
you underestimate at your own peril

our navy is not fuss
 
They will have to swallow all deficiencies if they want to get anything near to the 5th gen, i think it is better option then korean one because missiles and engines, also probably russians would allow local production and customization, with that they would bring india back into their military sales nest.
F35 is not realistic for India before they bow completely to americans even then i would say as along the aircraft whole their airfight philosophy and infrastructure has to be upgraded for which i am not sure they have enough money for their scaled needs.
And, the PAF needs to overtrump the IAF with sixth gen CCA (collaborative combat a/c) concept. One example: KAAN + KIZILELMA + ANKA-3...
 

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