Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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idiot idiot idiot... this moron... why cudnt he say the truth.. j10 plus jf17... give ur in-house product some much needed exposure and a well earned shot in the arm for marketing and sales prospects.
 
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As Pakistan deliberates what, how and if they are going to respond, they must not lose sight of the fact that while the IAF has proven to be rather poor, India's IADS is still quite formidable and would present a threat to the PAF if it tries to ingress into Indian Airspace.

I do think that they should lob a few long range SOW at some military targets, and some very long rate MLRS rockets to create a theatrical show at some military targets and then be done with it.

No value in risking getting PAF jets shot down in Indian airspace or Pakistan, the current score card will haunt the Indians for years to come and we should not forget that. I don't think PAF should try to fly into Indian airspace if i am honest.
Akinci is capable for SEAD missions.
 
THE WORLDS airforces would have watched this in AWE

5-0 is a hammering in any sport, event, fight, anything
Sir,please relax. There is still a lot of propaganda and rumors going around. Calm down. Do not underestimate the others. Don't let your tits get too excited.
 
That is incorrect - 65 was Op gibraltar .
The conventional war was initiated by India with the capture of Haji Pir and attacks on Lahore and Sialkot.

If a covert operation in disputed territory pre-Shimla is an act of war, then what proxy war India has done in mainland Pakistan already justifies war against India.
71 however was India invading using MB but they lie about that not being relevant instead the PAF strikes are.
Not just MB they sent brigades supported by armor into east Pakistan on November 21.

The PAF retaliation on Dec. 3 was made into their equivalent of Oct 7., a convenient place to declare the start of all history to be.
They are actually hoping now for the same - so they can launch multiple offensives in AJK to actually take it and other mainland Pakistan to capture territory for bargain
with the atrocious performance of IAF, I would not place too much confidence in such an offensive succeeding.

AJK, with six infantry brigades and 4 million extremely hostile people, will become their Vietnam. The collapse of the LoC would allow unprecedented infiltration into IOK and India.

Then again, Modi has replaced senior Indian mil officers with his yes-men, and Indian academia and media is currently an echo chamber of rabid nationalism. There is a risk of India proceeding with such an attack regardless.

if we’re being pessimistic we can entertain the assumption that they’ll nab the thar desert belt, Haji Pir, and get close to muzaffarabad.

Whether that, in combination with IWT suspension, crosses a nuclear red line, is unknown.

If we’re being optimistic and PAF gains air superiority…. Well Indian army will be sitting ducks like Saddam’s Iraqi Army. Thar desert doesn’t allow Indians to dig in like the Russians/Ukrainians have. We could nab a large amount of barren desert and humiliate them on paper, the same way they brag about capturing 13,000 sq km of desert in 1971 and envision in cold start.


We need to convince the int’l community that a nuclear war over Kashmir and the Indus is inevitable, and they must pressurize India to implement UNSC res. 80.

Surrendering the LoC as the intl border is unacceptable, it’s what the Indians want so they can rape and kill Kashmiris as they please, for this reason the Kashmiris tried to blow Musharraf up for accepting such a plan.
 
The government needs to tighten up on foreign journo comms asap. Khawaja Asif needs to be benched, and someone (or a combination of people) with a solid grasp of the English language needs to step in to these interviews who is capable of nailing the brief.
(Options could include - Amna Baloch Foreign Sec)
Bilawal Bhutto is a good but awkward choice because he doesn’t have a brief in the government.

There’s nothing stopping the creation of a special comms task force which draws on various parts of the political class+ to handle the international media rounds in such a crisis.
Khawaja Asif really surely needs to be controlled, he is busy throwing Pakistan under the bus each time. But sacking him at this point will send the wrong message. Better to ban him from talking and assign someone like Moeed Yousuf to talk as his representative, at least.

Khawaja Asif is just permanently high on something very expensive.
 
Sir,please relax. There is still a lot of propaganda and rumors going around. Calm down. Do not underestimate the others. Don't let your tits get too excited.

It was an exceptional performance, you can't deny that

Some performances just need to be celebrated
 

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