Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

EXACTLY. But problem is the ones at power using illegitimate means and stealing mandate can even burn down entire country but won't think for unity, sovereignty and honor of the nation. Its really clear.


Its pretty much obvious that only the severe lack of leadership in Pakistan has enabled Modi & India to brutally humiliate our sovereignty, sanctity of nation state by attacking Lahore, Rawalpindi, Karachi and atleast 9 other cities. It was something unimaginable that how come 6th largest military and nuclear state can be treated like this. And whole narrative of PMLN and their touts in media is already in action that we have done the retaliation. This is extreme depths of cowardice.

If it would have been not the absolute mastery & tactics of our pilots, we would have absolutely nothing to show. Its only those young men who gave us something cheer about. Otherwise this leadership has done ZERO. ZERO contribution of MUNIR and basically negative contribution of this form-47 govt. Infact India is using PMLN ministers videos excessively to mock Pakistan. They are using their other videos to make the case against Pakistan.

DGISP must walk the talk and don't listen to the entire machinery of PMLN active in media to make a comical narrative that we already have retaliated.

Defensive action is NEVER a retaliation against brutal humiliation of your sovereignty.
I agree with you in that Khwaja Asif needs to be barred from speaking to foreign media and we need a more capable, eloquent face to Pakistani PR.
Beside that, what severe lack of leadership now vs. the past? Did the Indians not try in 2019? Was Balakot attack attempt not in mainland Pakistan when the predecessors of the incumbents were in charge? Also, did IIOK revocation of 370 not happen in that time? Under whose watch did that happen? I don't think now is the time to get into a political tiff, so we should avoid putting a political color on this.
External factors influenced by a foreign country have nothing to do with what is going on internally.
The entire Army is engaged. All the services chiefs and their staff are working round the clock out of their operations directorates to ensure Pakistan defends and delivers a calibrated response.
There will be plenty of time to introspect after this is over. While we are in it, we should stand together instead of taking pot shots at each other. I can guarantee even if you were leading the nation right now, people would have issues with it.
 
I used to post this painting on PDF before and would like to post it here again.
It was drew by a chinese artist "Jeffholy".
Let's give the credits to him.
Besides ,I want to remind everyone here that what happend on the internet before 27 Feb 2019.
People was keeping complainting about retaliation just like now ,and we all know what came next.
People have the rights to complain, but let's not lost faith.
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Oh Indians!!!


Come out to play. PAF ne dawaat pe balaya huwa he. Ao fantastic tea tayyar he. Tum logh ghar se bahr hi ne nikal re. Chalo mattar choro, patio/verenda pe toh ajao. Ye kya kabootar bheji ja re ho? lololol
 
Let's keep focus on important matter
The Yalda Hakim (mouth piece) is not worth the 2 second of attention

In all fairness no one knew who she was /is , or care

Never heard of her before....


Skynews , was susceptible even in early period of conflict as another anchor was reluctant to say , India lost 5 Rafael and instead kept promoting Indian narrative

On the broadcast I viewed for 2 minutes , I was able to determine where the anchor was leaning and what his view was , it was literally a Indian story being , presented by a white guy

Typically places like CNN/Skynews they look for following traits
  • Follow specific narrative approved by higher uppers
  • Hire minorities with extreme-odd views , away from normal
    • They are always on look out for few mouth piece who are anti muslim, anti Pakistan , anti Turkey , anti Palestine. Who also happen to be "Muslim" sounding
  • The stories are only allowed once they pass the specific of anti Turkey-Pakistan-Muslim-Palestine-arab checklist
  • The people from minority background are hand picked for their anti views , when these mouth pieces report , it may appear that most Muslim nations have similar feeling what they report
  • The idea behind using minority reporter is that they on surface appear muslim sounding but their views are quite anti anything muslim


For western audience , when they view it it appears ok a Muslim reporter is reporting stuff what Indians claim so they are building a sort of consensus in their own public , that hey look even a Muslim reporter hates Pakistan

This is going on since 1990s in places like CNN as well it is not new
Absolutely NAILED it. They deploy certain ethnoreligious journos to signal "diversity" when in reality the people being deployed simply regurgitate the same tired old narrative, sometimes even more aggressively.
 
No saar 3 pilots captured saar, 25 planes shot down saar, Asim Munir arrested, F16 stolen by Taliban saar, trust me saar.

Indian state has become victim of her own media. Maybe there will be a realization among the good indians that propaganda has a limit and their media isn't credible at all.
Seriously. The amount of lies they feed to their people is unbelievable.

Maybe this is the reason why when rafales get shot down or abhinandans get caputured these people go clueless and start stitching up even more lies.

Because in the end reality does hit hard. I would suggest all who have doubts to go watch pravin sawhney's interview with karan thapar on youtube channel 'the wire'. Sensible indians should stay away from their mainstream media and follow sane voices from within their country.
 
No saar 3 pilots captured saar, 25 planes shot down saar, Asim Munir arrested, F16 stolen by Taliban saar, trust me saar.

Indian state has become victim of her own media. Maybe there will be a realization among the good indians that propaganda has a limit and their media isn't credible at all.
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How embarrassing for India. Puri dunya mey bezat ho gaye hain. And we haven't even done anything yet...
 
Every single India-Pakistan war from start to finish

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Jammu base totalled. Evidence.
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This is massive , it means IOK is under pak Air Force control
 
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How embarrassing for India. Puri dunya mey bezat ho gaye hain. And we haven't even done anything yet...

It's like going to Heera Mandi and the lady in the window says its my first time ajao ajao.
 
Who do you guys think has suffered the most in this recent indiaPak conflict.

My opinion. Its Dassault.
 
Has Pakistan's "Spider Anti Drone System" any role in downing these 77 indian drones?
 

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